FOX news is going to town with this Illegals in the Bus thing

Not really. I view "being wrong" as a learning experience.

 

That’s great.
And if everyone else knows what a sanctuary city is why does everyone make the wrong assumption? People keep claiming because it’s a sanctuary city that it means everyone who lives there WANTS illegals there and that they should pay for everything illegals need and open their homes to them. That’s ludicrous. As you pointed out sanctuary city only means they are protected from getting deported in event of reporting a crime.

 

I respectfully disagree with that view. To me, If someone votes for policy that prevents deportations, it sounds to me like, they want them there. Its a very reasonable assumption in my opinion.

 

Ok fine I’ll give you that some may want them there. But that certainly doesn’t mean they want or should pay for everything and invite them to live in their home.

 

Martha's Vineyard is far from being a "sanctuary city." It is a small island community targeted in a callous pr stunt by a ruthless self-promoter who forced Floridians to pay his cronies to transport deceived asylum seekers from Texas to a locale he knew would be unprepared to care for these families.

DeSantis’ administration has refused to release a copy of the $12 million contract with Vertol Systems Company Inc. for its role in administering the “unauthorized alien” program...​

The air charter company Gov. Ron DeSantis’s administration hired for his controversial migrant-moving program has contributed big money to some top allies of the governor and was once legally represented by Rep. Matt Gaetz and his former partner, who is now Florida's “public safety czar” in charge of immigration policy.

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[https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/poli...migration-czar-and-rep-matt-gaetz/ar-AA128CFV]​

 

So the latest news on the immigrants is they are now involved in a lawsuit against Florida. I wonder who put them up to that and what were they promised if they win? Whose using the immigrants for political reasons now?

 

Is it that you think these particular immigrants can’t think for themselves or do you feel that way about all immigrants? Never mind, we all know the answer

 

Democrats are teaching illegals the easiest way to get rich. Get hurt physically or mentally and sue someone rich…usually on purpose. Slip and fall in a supermarket. Scream racism or sexual harassment at an office. Enter the country illegally then sue the country that took you in because your feelings are hurt. Genius.

 

Welcome to liberal America.

 

By that logic if you leave your door unlocked that means you want people to come in and take your stuff. Its a very reasonable assumption in my opinion.

 

True- Florida is not a border state, as far as abutting another country. As for illegal immigration... Their was an incident known as the mariel boat lift, where Castro sent 1700 boatloads of people cross the gulf to the Florida keys, about 125,000 people, including all his prison population. Today- Venezuela's dictator, Maduro, is sending his prisoners to our border. If you have an influx of people from other countries entering by your states borders- it would seem you are indeed a border state rather than an internal state.

Personally, I think any government or group or person that can adjust laws and policies to create burden and hardship on others is using the immigrants as a political pawn or weapon. The problem in texas is directly the result of the attitude in Washington. Should Texas take that and say thanks? What's good for the goose in good for the gander. Send Texas more busses.

 

Always lock the doors! Especially now that we have future senators that want to release 1/3 of the prison population. I would suggest dead bolting as well.

 

48, but why is that relevant? The immigrants did not want to stay there. The island is not set up to process immigrants, but did what they could. Martha's Vineyard is not an entry point.

You've been corrected in great detail, with plenty of links to back up the facts, but instead of admitting it, you just keep on swinging at a made up "issue" that your right wing overlords have insisted is the truth. And heaven forbid you should apologize for your ridiculous hyperbole.

You aren't debating, you're merely attacking, with a paper sword.

 

You never actually contribute anything substantive to any debate on this forum. Is it truly your only purpose to come here and snark at others? Because that is all you do. Get a life, and maybe try to lose that giant chip on your shoulder.

Putting you on my Ignore list.

 

Didn't someone just ask what taxpayer dollars were being used for illegal immigrants and those who cross illegally who then request asylum? This is just 50 people. Imagine what the cost is for 2 million. The federal government ALLOWS this situation, yet gives little to no help to the states to deal with the costs.

 

What are you missing?

1. The only state with an illegal immigration population in the multi-millions is California, which has volunteered to take in more migrants

2. The people being bused away aren't necessarily illegals, many of them are asylum seekers. These are people who came into the country from the point of entry and applied for emergency sanctuary status. By definition they are not illegal/undocumented, they are literally going through the legal process. This is one of those examples where people simply assume a new immigrant is illegal until proven otherwise

3. There's nothing wrong with busing migrants to sanctuary areas, but under normal circumstances these migrants make the trip and pay for it on their own. If Florida or Texas wants to use their state revenue to assist them, there's nothing wrong with that

4. When busing migrants to other regions of the country, ideally you should prioritize sending them to areas that are in need of migrant workers. This both serves the better interest of that particular city, as well as the migrants themselves. Our country's birth rate has been on the decline, and by the 2030s the US's overall death rate is supposed to pass its birth rate. The death rate is already higher than the birth rate in the many major metro areas in the US, so ideally we should prioritize getting migrants to those areas where A. They will gladly accept them, and B. there is greater opportunity for the migrants themselves. However, in many instances, that is not what is happening.. one example of this is sending migrants to Martha's Vineyard, which is an island in Massachusetts with an overall population around 15,000. On top of this, many of the migrants are reporting that they agreed to go because they were lead to believe that there would be a job waiting for them at the other end of that trip. Many of these migrants are now filing a class-action lawsuit against the state Florida for misleading them

This is neither a convenience to the migrants, nor the state of Florida. It benefits no one

 

I'm sure the immigrants approached a lawyer to sue the governor of Florida after DeSantis sent them via a nice plane ride to a sanctuary state where they would be better off.

 

Better off? Yes, people from hot climates just love winters in New England. It's all they talk about. They can't wait to experience wind chills of 20 degrees.
Of course they didn't approach a lawyer. But they didn't have to pursue a lawsuit. That was a choice likely based on being duped.

 

I'm sure they are happy to be in a state that loves them. They will have access to warm clothes and they will adapt like so many other immigrants have before them. They will want for nothing in their new sanctuary home. Who will be paying the lawyer and court fees? And what have they been promised if they win? I'm pretty sure the promise of money was mentioned to entice their willingness to go along with this Democratic circus not to mention using the immigrants to the Democrats advantage.

 

Are you saying people in TX don't like immigrants???

 

It would also help if we cleaned house in general, get our thinking rational across the board. We have a lot of mental pollution among us now.

This morning I read an article where the US Air Force Academy has created a "Fellowship Program" that bans all cisgender men from joining- meaning anyone who recognizes their own natural gender.

https://www.foxnews.com/politics/ai...-bans-cisgender-men-this-program-isnt-for-you

 

Interesting thing just happened. I clicked the like button for this post, and a box opened asking me if I was sure I wanted to do that. Backed off, tried it several times, always there. Not happening on other posts, I tried a couple.- just on this one. Thousands of such clicks made in the past; that's never happened. WHY? Are we seeing an effort to shape what we choose to "like" to conform with a policy? Or particular points of view?

 

I just tried it twice and no box appeared and the like appeared under the post. Are you sure you did not click on the report button in error?

 

Oh dear, watching videos that pander to the partisan hysterics you promote is not a valuable use of anyone’s time.

 

Lol…you believe wrong, as usual. Stop listening to maga bullshit.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Illegal_immigration_to_the_United_States