Fukushima - exaggerated or a real threat

Agonizing reappraisal. At the minimum it might open the doors for TEPCO and the JapGuv to allow in nuclear experts from the US and, god forbid, Chernobel (which has never happened) to advise.

Can you believe that, in two years, after repeated offers and pleas from all over the world, not one foreigner has been allowed in to assists and advise on the clean up and containment of the reactors...not even one Russian expert from Chernobel.

Must be something significant they're hiding there.

 

do you think the nikkei would crash, possibly leading to a domino effect?

 

The Nikkei is too big to fail?

Where have we heard that before...

So Tepco has to kill the Japanese people to save it?

 

no it's not, but the results could be much worse than you think

how long would a general last, fighting in a war, by telling his troops they can't win and they're going to die?

 

Debunked here:

http://blogs.scientificamerican.com...trumpet-another-flawed-fukushima-death-study/

 

In June I wrote about a claim that babies in the U.S. were dying as a direct result of Fukushima radiation. A close look at the accusation revealed that the data used by the authors to make the argument showed no such thing. “That data is publicly available,” I wrote, “and a check reveals that the authors’ statistical claims are critically flawed—if not deliberate mistruths.” The authors appeared to start from a conclusion—babies are dying because of Fukushima radiation—and work backwards, torturing the data to fit their claims.

 

I believe the OP was discussing Japanese deaths...real and potential.

Who's taking about American deaths?

 

this is the title of the article at the link in the op:

HOLY FUKUSHIMA – RADIATION FROM JAPAN IS ALREADY KILLING NORTH AMERICANS

 

"Yet even if there isn’t evidence for a plume, where do all the dead people come from? Here, from the abstract, is the chain of reasoning: “U.S. health officials report weekly deaths by age in 122 cities, about 25 to 35 percent of the national total. Deaths rose 4.46 percent from 2010 to 2011 in the 14 weeks after the arrival of Japanese fallout, compared with a 2.34 percent increase in the prior 14 weeks….Projecting these figures for the entire United States yields 13,983 total deaths.” In sum: Sloppy statistics killed 14,000 people."

Deaths rose from 2.34% to 4.46% the 14 weeks after Fuku, which is statistically significant. The only thing the author retracted was extrapolating it over the entire US...although they DID use 122 cities in the study.

 

the point is that it's bogus

 

The deaths were real. Was Fuku to blame? Who knows....

 

no, it isn't

 

No, the deaths rose 4.46%. Meaning if there were for example, 100 people dead in 2010, then there were 104.46 dead in 2011 (numbers pulled out of my behind of course). It is not significant, in fact I would be surprised if normal variation is not even higher than this. This "study" is ridiculous and I think it is clear that it is driven by an agenda. All the other estimates are in several hundred at most:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fukushima_Daiichi_nuclear_disaster_casualties

 

ABC - Study says fallout from nuclear disaster in Fukushima, Japan may be harming local infants

SAN DIEGO - Two years later, the nuclear disaster in Fukushima, Japan may be affecting the health of young children in San Diego.

"We should take this very seriously," said Joseph Mangano, the executive director of the New York-based Radiation and Public Health Project, which researches the impact of nuclear power.

The group obtained results of eight air samples conducted by the EPA in San Diego in the month and a half after the nuclear disaster began.

It found that beta radiation levels in San Diego were more than six times the normal amount. While those are still low levels, the group says its numbers show the radiation may have harmed children.

The research group looked at those most vulnerable – infants – along with a gland susceptible to radiation, the thyroid.

In a study of states in the West Coast and in the Pacific, infants born soon after the nuclear disaster were 28 percent more likely to develop congenital hypothyroidism, which can lead to stunted growth.

In California, that number jumped to 39 percent.

Critics say there is still no direct evidence those radiation levels can harm humans.

"It's not like every newborn developed a terrible disease," said Mangano. "The effects are more subtle than that."

But Mangano says there should be concern because if the radiation is impacting the young, the true impact may not be known for years, even decades.

Mangano said he plans more studies in the next year looking at the fallout and any links to infants' deaths and birth defects.

http://www.10news.com/news/study-sa...a-japan-may-be-harming-local-infants-04042013

 

MSN - Fukushima fallout sickens U.S. babies?

http://healthyliving.msn.com/blogs/...=7e99ec99-b07c-4784-937c-b71c94fa6788&_nwpt=1

It's already well known how devastating the March 2011 Fukushima nuclear reactor meltdown was for Japan -- dramatic spikes in radiation-related illnesses, an increase in likely cancer deaths over the next several years, and pollution which may never truly be cleaned up.

A new study suggests what many worldwide have feared -- that the devastation from the traveling radiation has in fact sickened infants in other countries, including babies born shortly after the incident in Hawaii, Alaska, Washington, Oregon, and California.

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The study, conducted by scientists with the Radiation and Public Health Project, found that babies born shortly after the incident were 28 percent more likely to suffer from congenital hypothyroidism than were children born in those states during the same period one year earlier. In the rest of the U.S., which received less radioactive fallout, the risks actually decreased slightly compared with the year before.

The explosions produced the radioisotope iodine-131, which floated east over the Pacific Ocean and landed through precipitation on West Coast states as well as other Pacific countries. The levels of that isotope were measured in levels hundreds of times greater than supposedly safe levels. Radioactive iodine accumulates in human thyroid glands, and, in babies and fetuses, the radiation can stunt the growth and development of both the body and the brain. That condition is congenital hypothyroidism (which, luckily, is treatable when and if detected early).

Fukushima fallout appeared to affect all areas of the U.S., and was especially large in some, mostly in the western part of the nation, the study said. Even worse, other conditions affecting babies born in that time frame may have been caused or worsened by Fukushima, the researchers said.

"[State and federal] health departments will soon have [data] available for other 2010 and 2011 indicators of fetal/infant health, including fetal deaths, premature births, low weight births, neonatal deaths, infant deaths, and birth defects.”

Scary? You bet. But information is power. If you have a baby born in March or April 2011 and you live on the Pacific Coast of the U.S. (or other Pacific countries), ask your pediatrician to test your child for congenital hypothyroidism -- and anything else he or she believes could have been caused by radiation.

 

Regardless if this is true or not, the REAL fault lies withing the Japanese scientists and engineers. WHO in their right minds would build a Nuke Plant ON THE SHORE in THE RING OF FIRE, then LEAVE THE BACKUP GENS AT SEA LEVEL??????????? HUH??????? It was a serious human blunder, another one in the long line of mistakes that egotistical humans constantly make and NEVER learn from! Things like this will keep happening as long as man thinks he is smarter than he actually is.

 

that's a big difference from 20,000 people dead in north america, like the op article says

 

http://enenews.com/?s=thyroid

12:51 PM EST on June 2nd, 2013 | 16 comments
“Rates of thyroid problems in children near Fukushima nuclear plant are high” — Expert: Parents have reason to worry

Scientist: Physicians report increased cancers around nuclear site — Birth defects, still births, spontaneous abortions on rise

Radiation Expert: Even southern Tokyo is contaminated from Fukushima disaster — “We seriously have to think about what we should do”

Fukushima Mothers Worried About Cancer Risk (VIDEO)

Top UK Newspaper Headline: Fukushima cancer risk ‘played down to aid nuclear industry

Film: World Health Organization beholden to nuclear interests — Physician: “Like having Dracula guard the blood bank”

Corbett Report: Thyroid cancers skyrocketing right now in Fukushima — Guardian: “The issue is bound to escalate further” (VIDEO)

Report: Now over 44% of Fukushima children have thyroid abnormalities in latest tests

Kyodo: 10 Fukushima children believed to have cancer — 70% female — Several already had surgery for thyroid

TV: “Staggering number of cancers, illnesses, and birth defects” linked to nuclear waste? Over 700 cases found in only four square miles — “There’s something very wrong” (VIDEO)

Feature documentary on Fukushima kids with newly discovered thyroid cysts and nodules

Lawyer: Thyroid abnormalities in 55% of Fukushima girls tested age 11 to 15 (VIDEO)

And that's since JAn alone and ONLY covers thyroid issued among children. There are hundreds of more articles on radiated food, soil, water and even more alarming, the dumping of radioactive water in the ocean for 2 years.

 

Exaggerated.

 

That is a sad truth. Just think of what it might be like if our press lived up to their constitutional mandate and duty.

 

all you have to do is learn how to scrutinize info sources

[video=youtube;C5Pa9YvAqLs]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=C5Pa9YvAqLs[/video]

 

Ah, the ye ol' fox news is bad and all others are good false narrative...

 

it's funny to see how you make things up so often

 

You did not offer more, so I went with the obvious intention.

 

you don't know what you're talking about