FYI, Proof is still PROOF even if it isn't "WIDESPREAD"

Disgusting to see some of the usual suspects pivot from "no evidence of fraud" to "no evidence of enough fraud to taint an election." Not surprised.

Will wager a very high % of RW or nonleft posters here would gladly agree to significant ballot AUDITS, not meaningless recounts, regardless of WHAT election and WHOM was elected in a fishy election, will wager near none of the LW posters here would agree to such. Telling, and therein lies the difference between people who abhor the rights violations of ballot fraud and those who THRIVE on fraud.

Again, not fooling anyone.

 

Nah, you just thought you saw something that you didn't. Just like that video. Just like the crazy lady.

 

Nonresponsive.

I didn't "see," and especially GOP counting agents didn't "see" what they were lawfully supposed to because of the intimidation and blocking apparatus to prevent SEEING.

Apparently hundreds, maybe thousands of affidavits pouring in from the swing states evidence that some people DID see enough fraud to risk perjury, intimidation, doxxing, harassment, etc. to speak up.

 

I really don't understand what you're saying. Are you saying there were people who truly argued there was zero fraud? I find that hard to believe. Perhaps they misspoke and then clarified. But you seem to think they tried, but failed to fool people. Fooled people of what?

I wish there was zero fraud. I also wish people weren't so eager to believe their candidate lost, that they accept every allegation, regardless of source.

 

Nobody pivoted from anywhere to anywhere else. It's been well explained here in the thread. Coming back and denying everything ain't gonna work.

 

Actually it would be criminal (sedition).

 

There is NOT a system in the world fraud proof. That is what is meant by WIDESPREAD. There is always someone trying to fraud, but the system is so efficient, the fraud is rendered toothless. It can't affect an election unless the overall votes are within about 1000 votes in total.

 

Correct. This is the least fraud we've likely ever seen.
Scott Pelley: So back in 2017, as you're looking ahead to the election in 2018 and then ultimately the election in 2020, you have a to-do list. And the to-do list includes what?

Chris Krebs: Paper ballots. Paper ballots give you the ability to audit, to go back and check the tape and make sure that you got the count right. And that's really one of the keys to success for a secure 2020 election. 95% of the ballots cast in the 2020 election had a paper record associated with it. Compared to 2016, about 82%.
https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/politics/chris-krebs-explains-why-election-was-secure/ar-BB1btbxi

 

It's Ga. Those are republicans in republican counties. They cheated and still lost.

 

LOL. No one is watching? The cameras are on. And every poll worker knows cameras are recording. But somehow, the republican poll workers still didn't care.

 

To all Trumpers:

"Is it still proof if the proof gets thrown out in court?"

 

The post was crystal clear. For years on this forum, a certain contingent of dishonest LW posters meet any complaints of fraud with "well you have no proof of that." Now that there are mountains of admissible evidence of fraud, these posters are sliding into "well it's not enough to change the outcome" as most knew they would. These are incredibly dishonest people after all.

Mind you, these are many of the same posters banging the "muhrussia" hoax drum for years, despite NO evidence of that now utterly discredited scam, some of them even trying to pull that today.

 

Nonresponsive.

 

My god, send me an irony meter.

 

No one, ever, claimed there was never any fraud. All systems man made are subject to fraud.

 

You're sadly mistaken. Read the thread.

 

There is no evidence of any fraud that trump brought forth this election so far. Not massive or any. But, everyone knows, there will be some if one looks hard enough. But trump isn't looking hard enough.

 

With 54,000 posts to this forum and years here, you know, and I know that the above is laughably dishonest. Get honest.

 

Nope, it's very honest. There isn't a manmade system in the world that is 100% fraud proof.

 

The point was that several LW posters constantly sit back and demand irrefutable proof of voting fraud, or else it doesn't exist, and have been doing this for years on this forum. You know that as well as I do.

 

Nope. The left just wants proof that hasn't been thrown out in court, something the right cannot supply.

 

Those type claims are hyperbole. Much like trump claim of he won the election and fraud is the only reason he lost. Hyperbole.

 

No specific evidence of fraud itself has been "thrown out of court," Perry Mason, because no case in chief has been tried yet.

 

That's right because the Guliani and Trump haven't provided any proof of fraud to be thrown out.

 

Were there irregularities? Yes. Was there fraud? Yes. Did dead people vote? Yes. Was it intentional? Yes. Was it perpetrated by several conspirators at various levels in the election process? Yes. Was it significant? Yes. Was it mostly in the favor of PE Biden? Yes. Is left-wing media trying to convince people it never happened? Yes.

Did it change the outcome of this election? No. PE Biden won for no reason other than because in each of these battleground states there were surges in Independent voters, first time voters, youth voters, senior voters, previous Trump voters, and etc, who cast their mark for Joe Biden because of Pres Trump and the GOP's absolute failure to properly address the COVID situation.

Should these fraudulent schemes be investigated? Yes, but they probably wont be. Should participating Democrats face consequences? Yes, but they probably wont. Will they and others be encouraged to repeat and escalate come midterms? Absolutely. But Joe Biden is our next President and he won legitimately.