Gary Johnson and Third Party voters need to get a Clue....from The Tea Party

You will find it easier, quicker, cheaper, and better to reform and reclaim your party......than actually electing a Third Party/Miracle. This is not to say you shouldnt support a Third Party platform, but to accept the reality that Third Parties are built from the ground up.....from water coolers to dining rooms to school boards to city hall to county commissions to state legislatures and beyond......

......not from the Federal level.....and clearly not from the highest and most powerful elected political office in the world.


Accept the reality that over 99% of the political offices in this country are held either by a Republican or a Democrat.....that the only reason the name Gary Johnson means anything to you is because of Republican Governor Gary Johnson (R)....that three decades of Republican Ron Paul (R) would have never been, had he run for Congress on a Libertarian Ticket....

....but most importantly you must accept the reality that every election in this country comes down to The People vs. The State.


For its always been and always will be The People vs. The State......Conservative vs. Liberal....Republican vs. Democrat.....Good vs. Evil...The Right vs. The Wrong.....Host Organism vs. Parasite.....Freedom vs. Tyranny.....Independence vs. Dependence. Adding a Third Party to the mix simply weakens the former, which empowers the latter......because The State will collapse before it fractures. A Third Party yields The People vs. The People vs. The State.....to the delight of The State.

.....Would you really want an election between Obama (D) vs. Romney (R) vs. Johnson (R) vs. Paul (R)? Maybe if your supporting The Kenyan Tyrant/Chitcago Slimeball.....


You Johnson and Third Party Voters need to get a clue and take a lesson from The Tea Party.....who delivered The Largest Political Ass Whooping in US History in 2010....a Tea-nami from sea to shinging sea and across the frutied plain. And while you may or may not agree with The Tea Party.....there can be no doubt cast upon their success of moving The Republican Party towards the Limited Constitutional Government that it was built upon. In a little more than Two years, the Tea Party went from grass roots to filling Congress....

.......all while you Third Party believers keep twiddling thumbs, looking for the next Ross Perot/19% of the vote.


Life is full of the lesser of two evils.....and sometimes the greater of two goods....don't throw your vote away....vote for something better....Ryan/Romney 2012.
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No one replied because no one cares.

In any case, it's obvious that Ryan/Romney care about the American middle class and want to return this country to being dominated by a strong middle class, and aren't simply crony capitalist corporate loyalists. Right?

Right.

 

......or because the truth hurts.....especially with the Paulbot and Johnsonbot crowd.
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Your posting style is retarded and you need to attain better grammar, usage and mechanics and stop with the:

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stuff, as well.

That being said, it's obvious that Ron Paul and Gary Johnson are socialist idiots who hate liberty and Mitt Romney is more of a supporter of the free market and liberty, based on all 3 mens' respective histories. Am I correct? Of course I am. I'm a Mitt lover.

 

Excellent OP. The fact is, we have a two-party system. While I really appreciate the principles of the libertarians you speak of, and in large part consider myself a libertarian, the fact remains: your vote will either help Romney win or Obama win. When a libertarian votes for a third party candidate, they are in practicality voting for Barack Obama.

 

Its often easier to change the rules of the game then to invent a new game. Tea Party was and is very effective at working within the system. Had they formed an official party I doubt they would have been as successful as they have been. We will probably always be stuck with two parties so in our system it is a great way to get your agenda moving. Other areas such as Europe will probably have more success forming new parties.

 

If you chose to attack grammar or punctuation.....its because you have nothing and conceded the argument long ago...

Ron Paul isnt an idiot....he isnt running third party....
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Half of the "Tea Party" politicians are just Hard Core Republicans looking for votes. Bachmann and Santorum pop into mind imediately....

 

Correct. The Tea Party has essentially proven itself to be a group of EXTREMISTS, banded together in order to IMPOSE their will upon Americans at large, rather than represent their interests in earnest.

Thank God that such extremism went to only one side (the Right)... but we (Americans) do not need those as controlling, greedy and self-important as the Tea Party 'minority' taking over American government. Allowing that would ultimately be a disaster, and their behavior within the Republican Party (obstructionism) supports the concerns I'm relating.

 

Amen.....

.....these people that believe a third party is going to come about....via The Highest Elected Political Office in the World.....cannot accept this fact and reality.

Voting for Obama or taking a vote away from Romney.......describes 90% of the Libertarian voters I know.
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.....indeed. The Tea Party wouldnt have even been on the ballot in most of the 50 states......had they went the traditional third party/Miracle route.
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.....and the other half?

The Constitution/Freedom/Liberty Loving Republicans like Rand and Ron Paul.....the very type of representation your always clamouring about......
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To call them Extremists.......would be to call our Forefathers and The Founders the same......

America's First "Right Wing Extremists"

Stopping the hair brain agenda of The Kenyan Tyrant was representing America at large.....

......from ObamaCare to Card Check to Cap & Tax.....an overwhelming majority of Americans dont want any of it..

Right.....because Barack Obama isnt an Extremist huh?



......just the Biggest Leftist to ever stain the Whitehouse.
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All I can think about is the damage these folks have done to the GOP:



Need I really say more? I could care less if they vote or not. They are usually single issue voters anyway. Drug legalization freaks and such. Minor loss.

 

No, you are incorrect. Don't even attempt to compare today's SAD, CORRUPT, DELUSIONAL Tea Party, to the Founding Fathers. If they (the Tea Party) made 1/1000th the sense which the Founding Fathers did... they'd be far more accepted at this point.

Stop with the 'hair-brained', paranoid conspiracies; America doesn't need that BS anymore. (Either that, or you just can't stand having a Black guy in there.)

I'd say that NONE of what justifies the character of the Tea Party as most Americans have seen it.

Few to none on the Left are as extremist or obstructionist as the most influential members of the Tea Party; that is obvious enough.

There's that problem with the "Black" person again. (Sigh.)

 

I noticed that too.

 

And this proves that the Tea Party is pure Republican Party trying to show renovation when the truth that is more of the same.

 

Maybe just maybe that what is going on here is simple, some people just do not want to belong to a major party. As in they believe that the two major parties is exactly why we are here today. Before you all get mad and start name calling I'm not suggesting they are right but I'm not their Daddy. Plus add on another important note, in most case any significant pull of votes from a third party tends to hurt the incompent more so then the challenger! What I would suggest is that a good portion of the Libertarian Party voters would vote Democrat if they were to pick one of the two main parties. So IMHO, the idea of the case could be more a error on your part assuming that all votes from libertarian party would go automatically to Romney. Personally I think it would be dang near a wash an really lot of them wouldn't vote not helping no one.

Yet they are active, you may not like it but that is of little concern to the Libertarian Voter.

 

lol. The libertarian branch of the party is the only part of the party that cares about small government and the Constitution. Your side is no different than the left, really.

You guys have no one to blame but yourselves if Obama gets re-elected. You didn't put out a suitable candidate to us libertarians. Maybe you'll learn next time. A big government statist like Romney is not acceptable.

 

No, they're voting for the other candidate.

Since you believe that everyone should follow polls and try to game the system instead of voting for whom they believe in, tell you what: Obama is currently leading the electoral count, therefore I declare that a vote for Romney is "wasted", and we should just skip the election. Sound good?

People like you are absolutely, positively, 100% of the problem with our electoral system. Voting for the same two marginally different candidates each time and then freaking out when you can't figure out why nothing changes.

If you're voting AGAINST someone instead of voting FOR someone, do our nation a favor and stay the (*)(*)(*)(*) home.

 

Exactly. Stop blaming Libertarians for the fact that the GOP platform is one sentence: "We appear to be marginally better than the Democrats on a couple of issues."

Get over your smug sense of entitlement that leads you to think that Libertarians are just Republicans who won't fall in line and agree with whatever horse(*)(*)(*)(*) the national party shovels out.

No vote is guaranteed. If the GOP wants my vote, they're going to need to earn it.

 

Most Tea Party members in Congress would agree with the following.....while Democrats would disagree with every word....

"If Congress can employ money indefinitely to the general welfare,
and are the sole and supreme judges of the general welfare,
they may take the care of religion into their own hands;
they may appoint teachers in every State, county and parish
and pay them out of their public treasury;
they may take into their own hands the education of children,
establishing in like manner schools throughout the Union;
they may assume the provision of the poor;
they may undertake the regulation of all roads other than post-roads;
in short, every thing, from the highest object of state legislation
down to the most minute object of police,
would be thrown under the power of Congress.... Were the power
of Congress to be established in the latitude contended for,
it would subvert the very foundations, and transmute the very nature
of the limited Government established by the people of America."

--James Madison--Founder--Father of the Constitution--Conservative--Hater of Liberals--Great American--Right Wing Extremist

Which of course means you had a problem with the facts again.....



.....but Obama isnt an extremist huh? But yes he is black....no doubt that was the first thing you noticed......
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As you bare witness to Liberals and even Rinos crying about the Tea Party being too "Extreme" and "Radical".....

.....its pretty obvious the Tea Party isnt more of the same.....and after Nov. 2,2010--The Largest Political Ass Whooping in History.......its pretty obvious the Tea Party is kicking ass and taking names a mere two years after inception.....and The People love them for it and want more of it.
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The OP is right in that the Libertarians have a lot to learn from the Tea Party, and a huge negative lesson to learn from Ross Perot.

 

Best post of the week and perhaps of the month. I've been posting diatribes of how the moderates, centralists, independents and fence sitters have hurt or are hurting our nation, if for no other reason that their prescence gives them an imaginary stage in which to whistle in the wind of their spineless un-principled beliefs and useless hot air theatrics.