Gavin Newsom signs bill to keep California's last nuclear energy plant open despite environmentalis

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    Weird Cali hasn't had rolling blackout, Texas did as well as 700+ deaths for their energy crisis winter 2021? Hmm Cali vs Texas?
     
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    Texas's failure was caused by freezing natural gas pipelines, which was due to an unusually cold weather event. The pipes were not designed for this because it rarely gets that cold there. It was said to be a once in every 50 year event.

    California, on the other hand, simply doesn't have enough capacity for peak power usage during the middle of the summer, when people are using air conditioning. The temperatures California experienced during that time were hot, but not very unusual. They happen almost every summer.
     
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    Got it, you deny climate is changing faster because of humans

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    Isn't it true that nuclear will stop climate change? But you don't support it.
     
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    Weird same thing happened in 2011, only 3 days vs 5 for 2021, Fedss warned them, estimates said to winterize would cost $5-$20 billion, Gov't of Texas said $100 billion to repair, private estimate put damage coming in near $300 billion

    Hint Cali

    California's Heat Wave Sets Records, and Stretches Power Grid

    https://www.nytimes.com/2022/09/05/us/california-heat-wave-record-labor-day.html


    "On July 9, 2021, California's Death Valley reached 130 degrees Fahrenheit, according to an automated measuring system there, representing one of the highest temperatures ever recorded on the planet."

    "Summer 2021 ranked among the Top 10 hottest on record for many locations across interior NorCal"

    (US) Summer 2021 neck and neck with Dust Bowl summer for hottest on record
     
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    It might help, if it was safe and we had a way to neutralize the waste. It isn't and we don't.
     
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    Reprocessed nuke waste has been around for decades. Only nutjobs are against it.
     
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    Cool.
     
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    They will be fine.

    France's EDF plans to restart nation's entire nuclear fleet ...
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    Sep 4, 2022 — France plans to restart the nation's entire nuclear fleet by early next year. One of the largest producers of nuclear power in the world, ...
     
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    I have no party affiliation, and voted against Trump twice. That notwithstanding, I give credit where credit is due.

    Starting in March 2020, the Coronavirus Aid, Relief, and Economic Security Act (CARES Act) provided Economic Impact Payments of up to $1,200 per adult for eligible individuals and $500 per qualifying child under age 17.

    Economic Impact Payments | U.S. Department of the Treasury
     
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    EDF is state-owned.
     
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    That's 1. But it was bipartisan

    ''Select Subcommittee Staff Report Shows Trump Political Appointees Overruled Career DOD Officials To Approve $700 Million National Security Loan That Violated CARES Act Terms''

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    There are currently 500 people working on pandemic-fraud cases across the offices of 21 inspectors general, plus investigators from the F.B.I., the Secret Service, the Postal Inspection Service and the Internal Revenue Service.

    The federal government has already charged 1,500 people with defrauding pandemic-aid programs, and more than 450 people have been convicted so far. But those figures are dwarfed by the mountain of tips and leads that investigators still have to chase.

    Agents in the inspector general’s office at the Labor Department have 39,000 investigations going. About 50 agents in a Small Business Administration office are sorting through two million potentially fraudulent loan applications.



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    So what?
     
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    84%. Nothing on going from 100 Euro to 900 Euro a year later for cost?
     
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    Didn't work as promised, it gave out money, all Trump really wanted to buy the election of 2020
     
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    They weren't sure what was going to happen, what they predicted on climate has come true, and then some
     
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    So what? Energy is up across Europe.
     
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    It worked fine. The point was to inject money into the economy. Details really didn't matter.
     
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    No, actually almost none of it has "come true."
     
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    EDF, already 43 billion euros (about $45 billion) in debt, is also exposed to a recent deal involving the Russian state-backed nuclear power operator, Rosatom, that may heap fresh financial pain on the French company. The troubles have ballooned so quickly that President Emmanuel Macron’s government has hinted that EDF may need to be nationalized.

    “We can’t rule it out,” Agnès Pannier-Runacher, the minister for energy transition, said Tuesday. “We are going to need massive investments in EDF.”


    ...“EDF’s strategy, endorsed by the government, was to delay the reinvestment and transformation of the system,” said Yves Marignac, a nuclear energy specialist at négaWatt, a think tank in Paris. “The more EDF delays, the more skills keep getting lost, technical problems accumulate and there is a snowball effect.”

    Mr. Macron recently announced a €51.7 billion blueprint to rebuild France’s nuclear program. EDF would construct the first of up to 14 mammoth next-generation pressurized water reactors by 2035, as well as smaller nuclear plants — the cornerstone of a broader effort to reinforce France’s energy independence and meet climate goals.


    But the few new nuclear reactors that EDF has built have been dogged by huge cost overruns and delays. An EDF-made pressurized water reactor at Hinkley Point, in southwest England, won’t start operating until 2027 — four years behind schedule and too late to help Britain’s swift turn from Russian oil and gas. Finland’s newest EDF nuclear power plant, which started operating last month, was supposed to be completed in 2009.

    EDF’s recent troubles began mounting just before Russia invaded Ukraine. The company warned last winter that it could no longer produce a steady nuclear power supply, as it struggled to catch up with a two-year backlog in required maintenance for dozens of aging reactors that was put off during coronavirus lockdowns.

    Inspections unearthed alarming safety issues — especially corrosion and faulty welding seals on crucial systems used to cool a reactor’s radioactive core. That was the situation at the Chinon atomic plant, one of France’s oldest, which produces 6 percent of EDF’s nuclear power.


    Today, French nuclear production is at its lowest level since 1993, generating less than half the 61.4 gigawatts that the fleet is capable of producing.


    https://www.nytimes.com/2022/06/18/business/france-nuclear-power-russia.html



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    Yes ignore the article. Is energy up 900% across Europe? Are they producing the least energy since 1993 via nukes? Is EDF is trouble and not getting things done on schedule, or budget? Be honest
     
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    Oh right, who got it, like Trump, Dubya and Ronnie's tax cuts for the rich didn't matter? It was "in the economy" lol
     
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    It is already state-owned. It's France; they'll work it out.
     

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