Gavin Newsom Signs Trump Tax Return Bill

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  1. Pollycy

    Pollycy Well-Known Member

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    I have just finished placing my order for this book at amazon. Thanks for the heads-up!

    For a long time I've considered which president was worse -- Frankie Roosevelt, or Lincoln. I still can't make up my mind about that because each of them got about a half-million Americans killed, and many more ruined for the rest of their lives... and all for no valid, necessary reason at all....
     
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    Had the Confederates managed to secure an alliance with Britain or France, Europe's bloody wars could have been fought on on our continent rather than theirs. One that happened I doubt the union would have ever reunited.
     
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    Honestly, Zorro, I doubt very much that World War I would have been fought on the North American continent, for very real logistical reasons if nothing else.... Consider 'trench warfare'... hell, the war never even made it beyond the French countryside... I doubt that any of the European combatants would have been shipping armies over the Atlantic Ocean, especially given the surprising effectiveness of submarine warfare, even way back then.

    No, my guess is that both the United States and the Confederate States would have been in an alliance with both Britain and France. They would have worked efficiently together under two separate military command structures, and as a result of that cooperation, and with all the other factors I've suggested brought into play, it would have been even easier for the North and South to come back together in the 1920's.

    The only thing I can see that might have proved to be an impossible stumbling block might have been the creation of the Federal Reserve System in the United States by 'progressive' Democrats under Woodrow Wilson. The Confederate States might not have been able to choke that down at all!
     
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    One can only argue counter-factuals so far. I was puzzled for years on why we turned Grant and Sherman loose to destroy the South rather than let the Civil War die it's own death. The best answer I've heard, and obviously I do not know, what that we deeply feared that a major European Power would ally with the South and forever separate the US, resulting in our soil being the staging ground for proxy European conflicts.
     
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    Given the origin of WW1 I simply see no way it gets fought in the CONUS.
     
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    Except each of your examples limits who can run.
    Everyone has a tax return.

    Republicans would have agreed with this three years ago, it’s sad what one man has done to the party...

    Most states require candidates produce a certain number of signatures to appear on the ballot, do you feel this is not constitutional? If not, what is the difference
     
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    Interesting fact about Jerry Brown I heard today, he didn't want the Vietnamese boat people coming to CA because he thought they would be anti-Communist, not LW enough. What a kook.
     
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    The biggest LW voter suppression was the Deep State soft coup attempt to disenfranchise 63,000,000 Trump voters.
     
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    True, if Trump or any candidate doesn't want to be on the state primary ballot in CA, he can refuse to release his taxes, then his supporters will have to do a write in
     
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    Investigation is now a synonym of coup in the trumpet dictionary.

    Did you feel all the investigations against Obama were also coup attempts?
    Clinton?
     
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    Trump has withheld this information, and uses it as a way to distract Democrats from actually having a legit message. It works well as Democrats can't help but get the pitchforks out.
     
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    The liberal Democrats in California also didn't want the Vietnamese refugees settling in California because they already had to many Mexicans living in California.

    FYI:
    The liberals back during the Vietnam War era were never against the Vietnam War, they were against the USA and the RVN winning the war in Vietnam.
     
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    Completely sad.....

    Speaking of agreement, can you guess who said (wrote) the following back in 1995??

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    “Nothing in the Constitution deprives the people of each state of the power to prescribe eligibility requirements for candidates who seek to represent them”
    ENDSNIP
     
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    No clue, probably trump
     
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    Ha Ha... no, it was obviously well thought out and cogent.... rules Trump out from the get-go, although back in 1995, he wasn't the rambling buffoon he is today...

    One Clarence Thomas, current Conservative SCOTUS god....

    We'll see if he can maintain any consistency should this case get that far...
     
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    trump has said a few things thing I am impressed by, and then much much more than I am impressed how stupid he is. It’s a conundrum quite frankly.

    It will be interesting to see if Thomas holds the same reasoning when it no longer benefits his party.
    Just like with the electoral college that had majority republican opposition before trump conservatives frequently just to having whatever values benefit them the most. Makes you question if they have a single real value left.
     
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    From the category of "Least surprising news of the Day", Trump and the R's filed their suit against this bill today

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    The Trump campaign and Republican Party sued California on Tuesday over a new law requiring presidential candidates to release their tax returns to run in the state's primary, legislation that was aimed at prying loose President Donald Trump's returns.

    California's law is "a naked political attack against the sitting President of the United States," the state and national Republican parties argued in one of two lawsuits filed in U.S. District Court in Sacramento.
    ENDSNIP

    https://www.yahoo.com/news/trump-republican-party-sue-over-170641066.html

    The "Most Transparent President" strikes again!!
     
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    This idiotic Kalifornia 'law' is so unconstitutional that anyone could see right through it! If you know anything about tax return audits, you already know that this POS 'law', which was spawned in half-witted, overzealous Democrat minds, was going to run into a meat-grinder in the first federal courtroom it's brought into.... Not even a puking-liberal federal judge is going to be able to support this thing....
     
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    Yeah, it's a coin flip.. I agree
     
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    This 'law' will no doubt be fully supported at the Kalifornia State level... but the first Federal court it goes into...? As we used to say twenty years ago -- "TOAST!" No "coin flip" needed.... :thumbsup:
     

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