Gay people's opinion should not be taken into account in the marriage debate

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  1. Unifier

    Unifier New Member

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    I would advise unplugging yourself from society for a short while and studying nature, history, and science. Testosterone is a chemical that produces masculine qualities. Estrogen is a chemical that produces feminine qualities. Biology 101.

    While there are deviations to varying degrees, on the whole, men are designed by nature to be masculine and women are designed by nature to be feminine. They are natural opposites like night and day or summer and winter designed to balance each other out. It is culture that has attempted to meld the two into one ugly grey mush.

    You're welcome to debate me on this if you'd like, but you will get schooled. My statements are rooted in 5 years of extensive training and education in this field. This isn't just empty political rhetoric here.



    And that's exactly the point. If you were living more in alignment with your natural masculinity, you would not be hurt by such an innocuous comment. It would just bounce right off you. I'm not trying to pick on you here either. You basically just described my whole upbringing too. I was timid and weak and got picked on. I was shy. Girls didn't like me. I was way too sensitive. I got beaten up by bullies. Then one day I discovered that all of those problems were actually nothing but side effects of me not living in alignment with who I was designed to be. Basically, I wasn't being a man. And the decision to change that and embrace being masculine made everything else fall into place.

    Nobody is supposed to have low self esteem. We're all supposed to be confident and capable. Any time you don't feel that way, that is nature trying to tell you that something is wrong and that you need to change something. All pain, sadness, and negative emotions are nature's alert system. They are supposed to spur you to change. The problem is that we end up making an identity out of these negative emotions and become attached to them and completely miss the point of what they were designed to do. We identify ourselves as a certain type of person that is limited by some arbitrary quality and we cling to that identity and stop trying to grow beyond it. The truth is that unless you are completely happy with who you are and free to be the person you want to be, then you are not living in alignment with what nature intended for you. If you are getting picked on and it bothers you, this is nature prodding you to man up and become more assertive. You were not designed to suffer. You were designed to be strong, confident, and happy. Use this as your barometer to gauge where you are in terms of who you were meant to be. Because that's how you will know who you truly are at your core. Don't deny yourself the chance to be that person.
     
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    Um, I'm living in perfect alignment with who I am....and that's not uber masculine, trust me, please trust me on this. That's one thing I can't stand about some conservatives, they think they know everyone better than they know themselves and they actually judge you on this BS.
     
  3. Unifier

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    Dude, you told me yourself that you're shy and that it limits you. I'm not cold reading anything here. I'm simply responding to the things you've directly told me.
     
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    Zosiasmom New Member Past Donor

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    Define feminist.
     
  5. violadude

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    I said I am shy, that's right. My personality is generally introverted. I don't care much for heated testosterone induced competition, I cry a lot, I'd rather listen to Mozart than some cool masculine thing to listen to. That doesn't mean I'm out of touch with who I really am. I am embracing who I really am and you are telling me what "who I really am" should be without even knowing me.
     
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    Excuse me.....BS......

    Same sex couples provided wonderful stable homes. You don't have to believe all the evidence, but the fact is it is there.

    Same sex couples reproduce when they choose to.

    Same sex couples are entitled to the same dignity and status as heterosexual couples.

    There is no reason but pure hatred on your part that leads you to believe otherwise.
     
  7. Gaymom

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    And not even in the ball park. The restrictions on birth control proposed by the many violently religious would leave poor women holding the proverbial bag. OOPS!!! No daddy in sight.
     
  8. Unifier

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    Anyone named Gloria.


    The part in bold is not consistent with someone who is happy with themselves. But I'm done here. I can tell you're not in a place where you can hear what I'm offering. And that's okay. I wish you the best.
     
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    Correction......my marriage, and the marriage of every other same sex couple has


    NO IMPACT WHATSOEVER on anyone else's marriage or family.

    To imply that it does is a bold, outright lie.
     
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    Help me out here. What is the Republican view on contraception for the poor, a woman's right to decide on abortion, daycare, dead beat dads, women in polititics???
     
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    I meant I cry a lot at movies and stuff...or sometimes I cry to deal with stress, stress not caused by unhappiness with who I am.
     
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    Well...that's not true. Marriage is a stabilizing force for society, actually. It provides consistency, frees up money for consumption (two people sharing one rent), grows families in a stable environment, etc. Married people have settled down, they act differently...

    You contribute to the stability of your community, so you can't say you don't have an impact.
     
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    My parent's just had their 60th!!! It was wonderful!!
     
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    Who doesn't??? Are you generalizing about a groups likes and dislikes??? Impossible to do.

    I love dresses, get my hair and brows down, wear earrings and perfume. Feminine is just fine with me.
     
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    Zosiasmom New Member Past Donor

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    You're totally ruining my stereotypes...no subaru...no ponytail...next you'll say you don't own a lab and are into cats. ;)
     
  16. Gaymom

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    An impact on society as a whole, certainly, on my neighborhood, my children's school.....but not on anyone else's family.
     
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    Jeremiah and Zachariah, our two rescue cats. Sorry to burst your bubble!!!!
     
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    If they are self sufficient, has no impact on the society, they do not need to be licensed and regulated by the government.
     
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    LOL...there ya go.
     
  20. Unifier

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    Go out and buy some. A box of condoms costs next to nothing.


    No one has the right to kill an innocent person. Certainly not their own child. Being a woman does not make it okay.


    What about it?


    They should be held accountable.


    If you want to run, run. Who cares?
     
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    I never claimed they could not, sooooo just what is it you think is BS?

    At most, ONE of the same sex couple and a third party procreate. Physically impossible for two people of the same sex to procreate
     
  22. Gaymom

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    Then neither do heterosexual couples. If we want families that stabalize society, then we support all of them or we support none of them.
     
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    These were your opinions, not official Republican stances. I agree with you on women running for office, but many Republicans don't.

    As to birth control, condoms have a high percentage of failure, especially when you have to count on the man to use them.

    Despite your opinion on abortion, it is not your right or anyone else's to control a woman's body.
     
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    What does that have to do with anything??? Parents are parents, families are families. Do you go around asking your friends if they reproduced naturally???
     
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    Relationship between men and women is regulated and licensed by the government due to high probably of procreation. No license is required for any other types of couples. If we want families that stabilize society we have to give government perks to all couples not only sexual couples. All types of kinship should get equal rights extending equal rights to gay couples only is unconstitutional.
     
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