Gaza shots rockets: 6 Rockets hit south Israel

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  1. happy fun dude

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    I've always wondered how it is we know who's firing them. How do we know they aren't false flag rocket attacks used by Mossad or somebody to justify retaliatory punishment and "security" walls and such.
     
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    It will never end as long as one side is filled with religious intolerant rage and the other are civilized. The only thing that will stop the animals is utter destruction, since only the stopping them is every Jew dead. How many other ways can you negotiate with the insane? Israel has tried everything except just walking away, which makes about as much sense as the US giving Texas to Mexico or giving the entire country back to a few native Americans because they think they own it or some other insanity.
     
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    Israel destroyed Gaza police stations, security forces and government buildings. You can't demand they maintain flawless security after you cripple their ability to do so.

    You can just as easily say that Israel refused to recognize the sovereignty of Gaza, so Gaza responds the same in kind.

    It's a chicken/egg kinda deal really.
     
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    Kids throwing stones into Israel? I don't think so. Kids throw rocks at tanks and mighty armored up IOF forces in the West Bank, on Palestinian territory. Which is an expectable response when you are invading somebody's territory.
     
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    No invasion = no resistance to invasion. Zionists, go home.
     
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    How can you possible call other human beings 'animals' and ask for their total destruction and expect anyone to see you as 'civilised'. You are the person asking for the 'utter destruction' of another people.

    I take it English is not your first language. I think they will be satisfied with an honest acknowledgement of what happened in '48, a two state solution providing a contiguous state with the West Bank along 67 lines, fair distribution of resources and a satisfactory agreement concerning refugees. Granted they will only give a 20 year truce but that would have been sufficient. However you and I know that is not going to happen so political means will need to be used instead - unless of course Syria and Lebanon get taken over by salafi/jihhadists. Then Israel is going to have people whose sole aim can be to die for what they believe. Going to be a bit more tricky for Israel then despite being walled in

    That is not true. Israel has always refused to negotiate with Hamas. Definitely will result in one state now. Just hope the Palestinians are not going to all be Salafis. Wow just think, after Syria and Lebanon on to Israel with US arms and their experience of urban fighting.
     
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    Obviously, it's time for Israel to stomp Hamas again.
     
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    A projectile is a projectile. Moon should have been more specific and qualitative.
     
  9. moon

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    The meaning is plain. It's the depth of the moral defeat which causes neoZionists confusion. I repeat, the neoZionists have fired many, many thousands more projectiles into Palestine than the Palestinian resistance has fired into ' Israel '.
     
  10. Gilos

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    Nice one but that firing had nothing to do with price tag, in any case, if Hamas hunted Jihad lide IDF hunts price tag I would be happy
     
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    70 % of Israelis were born in Israel. 50% of Israelis came from or are descended from Jews who came from Arab nations that don't allow Jews to emigrate to their nation. Where is home?
     
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    Pfff....there is no law execp Hamas law, they dont have police in the sense countries have and not because Israel bombed a building, because the official police is supposed to be subject to Abu Mazen and Hamas be damned if it will have PLO running around Gaza, nope, that's all Hamas laws - which are very Islamic btw, in oppose to the much more "secular" WB.



    True, but I didnt see anything better from them during the leftee gov's...
     
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    Its entirely possible to discuss the topic without resorting to insults, flame baiting or back and forth nastiness. Try it, so that those who wish to discuss in a respectful manner can do so.

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    From time to time, over the years, it has occurred to me that Israel is more interested in how it is perceived than it is in doing the right thing. I suppose the rationale for this is that a more favorable rating in others estimations of Israel is of greater worth than the situation at hand. And is therefore the right thing to do by virtue of popularity. As I recall, and I believe this an example, Israel had like the entire head group of the PLO cornered in a building several decades ago. And rather than blow them to bits, Israel let them go. I don't know what Israel gained from this action. But I for one was hugely disappointed.
     
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    They just take pot shots in hopes of drawing Israel in.
     
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    Nevertheless it is a completely impossible demand that they manage to stop any and all rocket attacks, while Israel continues to provoke them.

    It is similar to arguments people make about Pakistan, claiming the Pakistan authorities are to blame for not stopping all militants crossing their border into Afghanistan, while at the same time we launch drone strikes which radicalize more people to want to cross the border to get revenge against the nation killing their people.

    In other words, you can't reasonable expect people to put an end to something you yourself are provoking.

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    He did. He said projectiles into Israel.

    Rocks aren't being thrown into Israel.

    Rocks are thrown at IOF expeditionary forces in the West Bank.
     
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    Not impossible but for the time being and considering its not an orgenized state I agree that if its isolated incidents Israel can look away, Islolated incidents can only be if Hamas does acts against it.

    Shimon Peres Birthday was a bit too much I agree but doesnt justify rockets, cant think of anything else that can count as provocation for that attack.

    Only Israel already left Gaza more than a decade ago, what blockade we have is due to their refusal to make peace, the US doesnt share a border with Pakistan or Afghanistan so they dont have our problems and you cant compare that situation, also Israel didnt shoot, assainate or arrest anyone in Gaza to justify this attack, its has nothing to do with provocation, this is was a conversation between Jihad and Hamas done of the South back - and we shouldnt tolerate it.
     
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    How do we know it wasn't Israelis dressed up like "Arabs", ala King David Hotel etc.?
     
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    Please reffer to the Subject - Gaza shots rockets: 6 Rockets hit south Israel
     
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    ' There's none so blind as those who will not see ' - eh Gilos :mrgreen:



    Try some previous weekly reports of the activities of the pariah State;
    http://www.pchrgaza.org/portal/en/index.php?option=com_content&view=category&id=84&Itemid=183

    <<< Flamebaiting >>>
     
  21. Gilos

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    The sheer weight of evidence - supported by verifiable testimonies- condemns your rhetoric as neoZionist smokescreening. Israel's criminals can squeal ' propaganda ' from the dock. We'll be the juries.
     
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    And we'll be terrified....

    BS propaganda.
     
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    Catcha later.
     
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    Palestinian moaning...
     

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