Gaza toll rises to 154 with no end in sight

It was a simple question:

Do you believe that Israel has a right and an obligation to defend itself from missile attacks that originate from Gaza?

 

Hamas has proven time and time again they are both violent and incompetent at war. Why should anyone care if your losing?

 

Too bad the Arabs attacked Jerusalem in 1967, which led to the loss of the West Bank.

Too bad the Arabs refused Israel's offer of full withdrawal for full peace, afte the 1973 War.

Funny how the Arabs keep making terrible decisions.

 

Where do you think Jews came from historically eh? BTW, peace would be easy if Hamas would quit trying to eradicate the Jews.

But hey, at least you are in good company.

Neo-Nazis, Islamists declare 'You Jews are beasts' during protest of Israeli operation

 

Maybe true, except Iran has no problems financing their junk yard dogs.

 

Well hell! Hamas send rockets, not aimed at military targets, but designed to hit civilian areas... and they are surprised to get the response they got!! They are obviously not the sharpest knives in the drawer.

 

They are a people stuck in the 3rd century.

 

When did they get THAT upgrade??

 

The Israelis just haven't done things right. They never bought an heavy bombers. Unlike Vietnam who's canopy of trees and foliage shielded them from Nixon's carpet bombing, Gaza has no such luck. Every time Israel experiences a rocket attack, drop leaflets in an area of Gaza telling them they have 3 hours to get out. Then send in the heavy bombers to flatten everything in that area. Sooner or later the Palestinians will have nowhere to live and have to move elsewhere.

 

When the Hamas murders launch a rocket, how many Israelis do they wish to kill?

10?

1,000?

All?

I know the answer. They hold the political position that Israel and all Jews must be driven into the sea. These are the scumbags YOU support. They live with genocide as their guiding principle.

 

The military wing of Hamas said it rejects the cease-fire proposal offered by Egypt, which was accepted by Israel. (CNN)

Pretty indicative of who want's what.

 

Yup.

(*)(*)(*)(*) the Palestinians.

 

Depends on what is agreed to on the cease fire doesnt it? If the settlements are not going to stop i can understand why they wouldnt sign.

 

Maybe if Israel ceased their illegal activities vis-a-vis Palestine, they would. Stealing Palestinian land and using it to house Jews, destroying Palestinian homes, destroying their means of making a living, preventing them from leading normal lives; all this is hardly conducive to peace-and the Israeli government does nothing to stop it and yet whines endlessly about being victims that only want to live peacefully. We've heard it all before like a stuck record.

 

If the damned Jews won't commit suicide then Hamas has no choice, do they?

 

Why, because someone dares to criticize the Israeli government that, for you, is anti-Semitism? Sorry but we've been hearing that from pro-Israelis for decades and the sympathy card long ago went over its credit limit.
People despise the Israeli government for its policies, not for the religion of its members. I would be equally condemnatory of any state whose government acted in the same way irrespective of race, colour or creed.

 

Israel is the belligerent occupier, the international law-breaker, the denier of human rights to the Palestinians, and you expect an occupied and oppressed people to sit there with their thumbs up their collective arses and do nothing while Israel continues to bite away at their land until it is all gone?
The Jews in the Warsaw ghetto didn't give up in the face of overwhelming odds, and neither will the Palestinians-despite the utter futility of their feeble resistance efforts.
The problem Israel faces is that global opinion, the law and the entire United Nations (apart, of course, from America) recognises Palestine's bid for statehood. Israel's arrogant sense of self-importance and superiority will not permit them to back down for a moment. That will ultimately be Israel's undoing.

Israel demonstrably is not interested in any peace which they perceive as leaving them with a loss of face, and anyone who leads them and attempts an amelioration of the conflict gets killed...their current leader brags about derailing peace negotiations, brags that America does as he wishes without so much as a whisper of concern and it is the Palestinians who are causing all the problems? Can you think why that might be?

 

So why doesn't Hamas stop shooting rockets?

They are obviously getting the worst of this exchange.

 

You see, this is why no one cares about this situation anymore. This forum is a perfect indication, even a year ago at least half the board was pro Palestine. Now it's two or three people.

All because of massive lies like your quotes state.

I agree with Mr. Said, when Palestinians stop victimizing themselves and then firing rockets because of it, things will change.

And your quote about Einstein is a joke, Israel doesn't even touch what the Nazis did. Stop lying.

 

Going back to the 6 Day War:
1.Israel won the war capturing the Golan Heights,West Bank, East Jerusalem,and the Sinai.
2. By capturing the West Bank, they also captured the Palestinians. Before the war, Israel had offered citizenship to them, but not after.
3. In the UN Russia demanded that Israel give up all it's captured territory but the US takes an interest in gutsy Israel and uses its veto power. Thus starts the special relationship.
4. Resolution 242 was sponsored by Britain which said that Israel would return land and in return, the Arabs would recognize Israel's right to exist and there would be peace
5. As we know the Arabs refused the deal except for Egypt and that is why the Sinai was returned in 1979. That was 90 per cent of the land Israel had taken during the war.
6. The PLO rose to prominence to take the Palestinians' side, but the terrorists saw an excuse to commit genocide. In 2000 Arafat rejected the Israeli proposal brokered by Clinton. After that Arafat called Clinton a great man to which Clinton replied, "I am not a great man; I am a failure, and you have made me one."
7. Even the Palestinians acknowledge that there is nothing in Resolution242 to suggest a Palestinian state.Doesn't it make you wonder that if the Arabs had been willing to recognize Israel, they would have their land and peace and all of this would be over? Don't blame Israel. Blame the Arabs who were greedy and wanted it all with no compromise.

 

Cause they have to use all the money obama gave them, or else there wont be any more money from obama in the future.....

Obama Blows Off Congress, Funds Palestinians, Lies About PA Stance on Israel

President Obama has decided to provide $192 million to the Palestinian Authority despite Congress’s freeze on PA funding after its president, Mahmoud Abbas, attempted to declare statehood unilaterally last September, in violation of the PA’s treaty commitments.

Obama’s “waiver” of the restrictions on Congress’s Palestinian Accountability Act was first reported in the foreign press (AFP), which is where Americans generally need to go to get news about what the U.S. administration is up to. A report from the Times of Israel is here. [Hat tip, Creeping Sharia.] The New York Times, evidently too busy reporting on how much Israel sucks, did not find this story fit to print.

White House spinmeister Tommy Vietor stated that President Obama made the decision to pour American taxpayer dollars into Palestinian coffers in order to ensure “the continued viability of the moderate PA government.” He added the claim that, as the report puts it, “the PA had fulfilled all its major obligations, such as recognizing Israel’s right to exist, renouncing violence and accepting the Road Map for Peace.”

In the real world, the very immoderate PA has reneged on all its commitments. In addition to violating its obligations by unilaterally declaring statehood, the PA has also agreed to form a unity government with Hamas, a terrorist organization that is the Palestinian branch of the Muslim Brotherhood. The PA continues to endorse terrorism against Israel as “resistance.” Moreover, the PA most certainly does not recognize Israel’s right to exist. Back in November, for example, Adil Sadeq, a PA official writing in the official PA daily, Al-Hayat Al-Jadida, declared that Israelis

have a common mistake, or misconception by which they fool themselves, assuming that Fatah accepts them and recognizes the right of their state to exist, and that it is Hamas alone that loathes them and does not recognize the right of this state to exist. They ignore the fact that this state, based on a fabricated [Zionist] enterprise, never had any shred of a right to exist…

In sum, everything Obama is saying about Palestinian compliance is a lie. Even if we were not broke, we should not be giving the PA a dime. To borrow money so we can give it to them is truly nuts.

Will Congress do anything about it? There is a very simple answer to this: slash the executive branch’s budget. That is the weapon the framers gave Congress to rein in a corrupt, spendaholic executive branch. You could start with a treble damages rule: Obama gives $192 million to the PA against Congress’s directive, Congress responds by slashing $600 million out of the State Department’s budget. That would be start — though State would still have $51 billion left over to fund the Muslim Brotherhood and its other favorite Islamic supremacists.

 

Hamas turns a profit on every death. They are sick.

Look at all the mindless drones here that support their attempt to drive Israel into the sea, because even the tiniest sympathy for Hamas is complicity with g
genocide.


'I support Hamas' = 'I support genocide' = 'Hitler had it right.

 

What are you babbling about now?

 

Genocide? What genocide? The only genocide I recall anyone being guilty of in recent years is Israel. Do the names Sabra and Shatila mean anything to you? As for compromise, where is the Israeli compromise when they are daily stealing land which is demonstrably and legally not theirs? Tell me that-and while you're at it read the first paragraph of Resolution 242 to yourself, out loud. Here, allow me:
"Emphasising the inadmissibility of the acquisition of territory by war..."
http://unispal.un.org/unispal.nsf/0/7D35E1F729DF491C85256EE700686136

 

the Arabs committed acts of genocide against the Jews during the 1948 War.