Georgia Republican Official Compares Trump To Satan, Says He’s Out to Steal The Party’s Soul

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    Eventually reality is going to meet you :)
     
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    You compared a cow to a fetus in your post. Here's that post. Just wanna know how a cow compares to a potential human? Hum?
     
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    I think the inability of a majority of Americans and consequently politicians to be willing to compromise results in the radical shifting of red and blue politics in America. Besides IMO, a politician like Trump who actually believes in compromise and some sort of libertarianism gets crucified in politics by the swamp, for example.
     
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    The reality I see is you're consumed with your hatred for Trump.
     
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    Here's more :)

    https://www.foxcarolina.com/biparti...cle_9f20a595-b302-5e73-9592-d7693fe08c44.html

    • That then-campaign chairman Paul Manafort was working with Konstantin Kilimnik, a Russian intelligence officer, and sought to share internal campaign information with Kilimnik. The committee says it obtained "some information suggesting Kilimnik may have been connected" to Russia's 2016 hacking operation and concludes Manafort's role on the campaign "represented a grave counterintelligence threat."
     
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    The campaign chairman of the Hillary campaign was John Podesta and his brother Tony Podesta was an agent for the Ukraine who didn't register with American gov't as an agent of the Ukraine. I think this entails a possible involvement with the Hillary campaign and a foreign country. Coincidently, the Ukraine openly campaigned for the Hillary campaign and I think this entails a possible involvement with the Hilary campaign and a foreign country.
     
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    Not really but glad you mentioned it and will do so now - This is a good segway into the kindergarten game "Which one is not like the others"

    The only comparison was made previously is that neither a cow - nor a "potential human" (zygote) is a living human.

    When we look up the Characteristics required for "Homo Sapiens" - Kingdom, Phylum, Class - exactly the same.

    Cows have brains, feel pain, nurse their young .. there are many similarities.

    A zygote has none of the above.
     
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    Sure but was talking about the shift away from Classical LIberalism/Republicanism - the hatred both sides now have for the founding principle - essential liberty, Constitution, principles of a consitutional Republic.
     
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    A potential human can become a human. A cow (potential or otherwise) can't become a human.:roll:
     
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    Trump is not complicated, he'll burn the country down before he admits to losing and he will cheat & steal at every turn. He is the swamp.
     
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    That shift is caused by the spread of authoritarianism in America. The mantra in America is no longer live and let live...It's my way or the highway.
     
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    Assuming your claim is correct - what is your point ? (Note- a zygote will never become a human)
     
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    A zygote can become a human if not aborted, for example:roll:.
     
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    Correct - very true - but we need to be more specific in relation to what ideology Red and Blue have adopted .. hard to fight an enemy that one does not understand. By this I mean that your answer gives the symptoms .. but does not really identify the cause.

    The cause is "Utilitarianism" - this is a justification for law that looks only at "What will increase happiness for the collective" - completely disregards the rights of the individual . and is an anathema to the founding principle (respect for essential liberty) on this basis.

    For example - law made on the basis of "If it saves one life" - "Harm Reduction" . We hear such arguments all the time. The Drug war for example was justified on this basis - but a gazillion other laws. Utilitarianism is at plague proportions.

    These justifications sound good on the surface which is what makes them so insidious. Do you not want to save a life ? Don't you... Don't you.. Don't you ?? :)

    If this is truly good justification for law - should we not ban skiing tomorrow .. would this not save a life or two ? What about boating .. thats really dangerous .. one could drown .. driving a car ? forget it ... one of the most dangerous things you can do .. and on and on.. alcohol - Red Meat (which turns out to be not so dangerous) - smoking - cave diving .. on and on and on.

    In fact.. one should not rise from bed in the morning as one might fall and break neck.

    Utilitarianism allows for an end run around the main safeguard which protects essential liberty - the basis on which this nation was founded.

    In a free society the individual has the ability to risk a reasonable amount of harm to themselves.
     
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    1) What is your friggen point ? Speak man ..
    2) No a zygote can never become a human .. that is not how it works. The zygote is part of human creation - like a builder of a brick building is part of the creation of that building .. but the builder is not the building .. and will never become the building. At the zygote stage - not a single "Brick"/Cell in the building under construction exists - and will not exist for quite some time.
     
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    In my view, the rise of authoritarianism in America is due to certain GOP politicians like G.W. Bush, Liz Cheney and Mitt Romney, for examples. Then again, all progressives are authoritarian and I think the one lesson progressives learned from the successes of Bush, Cheney and Romney, for examples, is that authoritarianism is successful in American politics (but not beneficial to American politics)...I was going to add in my opinion but I think there's no question that authoritarianism in American politics is hurtful to American politics.
     
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    Let the zygote gestate.:roll:
     
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    Your hatred for Trump runs deep.
     
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    This sycophancy for Trump runs to cult level.
     
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    Of course Authoritarianism is nasty - but the word "Authoritarianism" is meaningless unless accompanied by how this authoritarianism is realized - which is through utilitarian justification for law.

    Your lack of understanding of this has caused you to completely miss Blue contribution to authoritarianism. Blue loves Utilitarianism .. and were the pioneers in allowing this justifiction for law to become so prevailent. .
     
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    Some choose to do so.. some don't. another meaningless respons on your part.
     
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    Any apology for Trump runs at a sycophant level? Like I said, your hatred for Trump runs deep.
     
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    The Constitution, for example, is the utilitarian law yet most Americans believe in the tenants of The Constitution. A law which is an edict, for example, isn't a law Americans believe in and isn't, IMO, a justifiable law.

    Most libertarians want an authoritarian measure like secure borders, for example. I know wanting secure borders seems to be a contradiction of libertarianism but libertarians realize that unsecure borders are a direct threat to American sovereignty.

    How did I miss the 'blue' contribution to authoritarianism? Didn't I state that all progressives are authoritarian??
     
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    Not meaningless. The potential human, the zygote, should have rights too.
     
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    ?? The Constitution is not "utilitarian"

    No idea that secure borders were a contradiction to libertarianism .. nor does that seem to make any sense..

    You missed the contribution of Utilitarianism to authorotarianism .....
     

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