Germany confesses ' special responsibility for Israel '

Discussion in 'Latest US & World News' started by moon, Sep 3, 2011.

  1. moon

    moon Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Aug 4, 2008
    Messages:
    33,819
    Likes Received:
    381
    Trophy Points:
    83
    Nobody with any sense doubts the degenerate treatment of European jews by Germany's Nazis during the 1930s and 1940s. However, the German sense of guilt should not provide blanket immunity for neoZionists to practice their own form of racism against arabs.
    Arabs had no part in the Nazi program, arabs are in no way responsible for the 20th century vilification of European minorities by Germany's fascists and arabs are not required to submit themselves to Zionist rule or to permit Zionists to occupy and annex arab territory on the back of German misdeeds of the last century. The notion is absurd- and it grows more absurd with age.
    Furthermore, 5 million Roma and other minorities suffered the self-same fate at Nazi hands as Europe's jews. Where is Germany's ' special responsibility ' for them ? There isn't one . Modern Germany- itself cleansed, purged of Nazism and innocent of Nazi crimes- is a victim of Zionist propaganda. Germans should stand up and rail against racism of all descriptions, not slink into the shadows in order to permit neoZionists to promote it.
     
  2. dilligaf

    dilligaf New Member

    Joined:
    Aug 22, 2011
    Messages:
    498
    Likes Received:
    17
    Trophy Points:
    0

    The holocaust never happened,it was a lie.
     
    JFC likes this.
  3. moon

    moon Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Aug 4, 2008
    Messages:
    33,819
    Likes Received:
    381
    Trophy Points:
    83
    From the OP;

    Nobody with any sense doubts the degenerate treatment of European jews by Germany's Nazis during the 1930s and 1940s.
     
    jay runner and Eleuthera like this.
  4. The Judge

    The Judge New Member Past Donor

    Joined:
    Aug 16, 2008
    Messages:
    13,345
    Likes Received:
    64
    Trophy Points:
    0
    The holocaust is the most well documented genocide in human history. It happened and it was practiced by Germans. Germany's guilt complex is thus understandable, but it is very sad that Israel is misusing and abusing Germany's good intent.

    The problem is not that Germany wants to help Israel. The problem is rather that Israel misuses this to hate and harm Semites under the umbrella of the Holocaust, gaining Germany's unintentional assistance to harm Semites a second time again.
     
    MVictorP, Giftedone and Eleuthera like this.
  5. moon

    moon Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Aug 4, 2008
    Messages:
    33,819
    Likes Received:
    381
    Trophy Points:
    83

    That's true , although European jews were not ' Semites ' in the classical sense. Philosemites worldwide will abhor Germany's denial of Zionist racism if Germany refuses to discuss it.
     
  6. DonGlock26

    DonGlock26 New Member Past Donor

    Joined:
    Oct 20, 2010
    Messages:
    47,159
    Likes Received:
    1,179
    Trophy Points:
    0
    I had always thought that civilized peoples would put a stop to any large-scale genocide after WWII, but Bill Clinton proved me wrong.

    _
     
    jay runner likes this.
  7. zulu1

    zulu1 Banned

    Joined:
    Jul 23, 2011
    Messages:
    2,220
    Likes Received:
    37
    Trophy Points:
    0

    Geez, yet more erudite in-depth analysis...simply mind-blowing.
     
  8. Margot

    Margot Account closed, not banned

    Joined:
    Oct 23, 2010
    Messages:
    62,072
    Likes Received:
    345
    Trophy Points:
    0
    What was Clinton's large scale genocide ???
     
  9. Iolo

    Iolo Well-Known Member Past Donor

    Joined:
    Mar 5, 2011
    Messages:
    8,759
    Likes Received:
    126
    Trophy Points:
    63
    The vast numbers of murders of Russians, 'Jews', socialists, communists, homosexuals, Roma etc etc etc certainly happened, and the zionists are imitating it in the small way the US so far allows, concentrating on children first, for terrorist reasons. The present Germans, like the inheritors of nazi collaboration everywhere, can't distinguish between Jews and ex-ex-ex-Jewish nazis.
     
    Giftedone likes this.
  10. Iolo

    Iolo Well-Known Member Past Donor

    Joined:
    Mar 5, 2011
    Messages:
    8,759
    Likes Received:
    126
    Trophy Points:
    63
    You people are all for it in Palestine, of course.
     
  11. Marlowe

    Marlowe New Member

    Joined:
    Mar 13, 2011
    Messages:
    11,444
    Likes Received:
    93
    Trophy Points:
    0


    Bill Clinton ? You mean coz he ****** Lewinsky ?

    Brilliant. (omg) o!o
     
  12. snakestretcher

    snakestretcher Banned

    Joined:
    Jun 3, 2010
    Messages:
    43,996
    Likes Received:
    1,706
    Trophy Points:
    113
    So did successive presidents who oversaw your little Vietnamese field-trip. Can we expect any more pearls Don?
     
  13. zulu1

    zulu1 Banned

    Joined:
    Jul 23, 2011
    Messages:
    2,220
    Likes Received:
    37
    Trophy Points:
    0
    Comprehension problems, or perhaps you need to visit specsavers. These cheap anti-semitic jibes no longer work...Grow up.
     
  14. moon

    moon Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Aug 4, 2008
    Messages:
    33,819
    Likes Received:
    381
    Trophy Points:
    83
    goody likes this.
  15. RomanTimes

    RomanTimes New Member Past Donor

    Joined:
    Aug 31, 2011
    Messages:
    171
    Likes Received:
    5
    Trophy Points:
    0


    He stood by why hundreds of thousands(800,000 estimated killed, Wiki) were killed in Rwanda though.

    But most of the world stood by when it occurred.
     
    Empress likes this.
  16. RomanTimes

    RomanTimes New Member Past Donor

    Joined:
    Aug 31, 2011
    Messages:
    171
    Likes Received:
    5
    Trophy Points:
    0
    So very true Snakester! But what should we have done? What should the world have done? It's a bleeding shame that these atrocities occur. We become paralyzed and do nothing to stop them. Is it humanities responsibility to stop them?
     
  17. RomanTimes

    RomanTimes New Member Past Donor

    Joined:
    Aug 31, 2011
    Messages:
    171
    Likes Received:
    5
    Trophy Points:
    0
    Moon:

    I was unaware that Israel had nuclear submarines, what is your source? (And built by Germany no less!)
     
  18. moon

    moon Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Aug 4, 2008
    Messages:
    33,819
    Likes Received:
    381
    Trophy Points:
    83
    It's common knowledge. Nobody is doing anything about it but.

     
    Empress likes this.
  19. RomanTimes

    RomanTimes New Member Past Donor

    Joined:
    Aug 31, 2011
    Messages:
    171
    Likes Received:
    5
    Trophy Points:
    0
    Oh,

    Sorry, I thought you meant Nuclear powered submarines. Any submarine has the capability to carry a nuclear 'device' of some sort.

    The Dolphin class is basically a Type 209. Many worlds navies had used them.

    As far as the Israelis need for a SSBN, that is suspect but do is England's, Russia's, France's, the US, China... etc...
     
  20. moon

    moon Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Aug 4, 2008
    Messages:
    33,819
    Likes Received:
    381
    Trophy Points:
    83
    Ah, you think that the ability to remain submerged for extended periods really matters that much. OK.

    http://www.globalsecurity.org/wmd/world/israel/sub.htm
     
  21. moon

    moon Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Aug 4, 2008
    Messages:
    33,819
    Likes Received:
    381
    Trophy Points:
    83
    Ever heard such ingratiating crap ?
     
  22. Art_Allm

    Art_Allm Banned at Members Request Past Donor

    Joined:
    Jul 10, 2009
    Messages:
    4,003
    Likes Received:
    80
    Trophy Points:
    48
    Do you really believe that Germany is really an independent country, and that Germans can really freely elect their representatives, and that these representatives can really act in the interests of their voters?

    Oh boy!
     
  23. RomanTimes

    RomanTimes New Member Past Donor

    Joined:
    Aug 31, 2011
    Messages:
    171
    Likes Received:
    5
    Trophy Points:
    0
    Moon, I'm trying to understand your discomfort. I'm not saying that I'm for Israel having Nuclear weapons on submarines.

    But you do understand they already have nuclear weapons that are not deployed to Submarines.

    Are you afraid of the submarines because they are harder to detect?
     
  24. moon

    moon Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Aug 4, 2008
    Messages:
    33,819
    Likes Received:
    381
    Trophy Points:
    83
    Isn't the reality of fascists with nukes everybody's greatest dread ? Germany is falling over itself to become an ash tip. Hasn't anybody noticed ? :mrgreen:
     
  25. The Judge

    The Judge New Member Past Donor

    Joined:
    Aug 16, 2008
    Messages:
    13,345
    Likes Received:
    64
    Trophy Points:
    0
    I think that the confusing aspect of the matter is that the German tax payer is being forced to finance the construction of a war machine which is being donated to the destroyer of the nation of Palestine. If Israel recognized and accepted the nation of Palestine, then maybe it would make sense to donate subs to friendly peace-loving Zionists. But, the present situation is just mind-boggling and unlogical. Germans already pay to much in taxes.
     

Share This Page