GERMANY JOINS CHORUS CASTING DOUBT ON TRUMP ADMINISTRATION CLAIM THAT IRAN WAS BEHIND ATTACK ON OIL

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  1. Starjet

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    Well, they allow themselves to be ruled by religious fanatical tyrants. How smart do you imagine them to be? I’d say, not very.
     
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    if Iran wants to join the 21st century, they need to start creating a capitalist secular nation based on the principle of Individual Rights, instead of sacrificing future generations in order to create a nuclear weapon to destroy America and Israel.
     
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    Germany is becoming anti American and Iran offers oppertunities to make money

    A marriage made in heaven
     
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    Are you saying that whenever a nation does what in its own self interests rather than what in the interests of Washington that's it's 'arse' kissing? Interesting! :roll:
     
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    Fundamentally, that depends upon what you are defining as self-interest? As in: What is the self-interest of Jack-the-Ripper in surgical knives? The same as Germany's in dealings with Iran? To defend Iran is to defend tyranny and betray liberty--you know, that forgotten ideal of " to each his own, on his own, for his own, as high as his spirit takes him". Servitude is not happiness, and happiness is not living for the sake of others, be they the state, the tribe, Jesus, Mohammad, Confuscious, God, or Ayn Rand. There is a reason why humans are taught to bow and be subservient to a higher ideal, those in power to not appreciate the independent mind.
     
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    As likely an explanation as any. But if true, very short-sighted.
     
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    Iran acts reasonable, USA as idiotic orange goon who insults Germany again and again. We have zero interest in war in that region and will do what we can to prevent that. To do that, we have to push USA out.

    The positive thing is, that Germany as NATO member has lots of intel and made this public.
     
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    Thats still better than the pseudo religious moronic tyrants you have as leaders.

    Someone like trump would not even make it as street artist in Germany
     
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    Says the guy from the country who elected Göring to the government... The guy that hosted party at is house dressed as a japanese women, kimono and all...
     
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    That is because he can't draw. He wouldn't make it here either.
     
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    Didn't you just write in another post that human souls have to live for their own sake, by their own effort and in the name of their own beliefs? So why are you saying now that Iran has to become a secular and capitalist nation based on our principles of human rights instead of living for their own sake, by their own effort and in the name of their own belief?



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    I think the main reason is his low intellect. He appears like an Idiot Here.
     
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    Hey, isn't Trump German?



    I'm glad you're happy. Enjoy! :oldman:




     
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    If only I had the idiocy to become a billionaire.
     
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    Why would he want to? Not to mention, but Germany has a sordid history with a certain street artist. So much hate, so little good. Must be hard being you.
     
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    Oh no, worry, and worry a lot about your happiness...the intellectual vampires want to suck it dry to feed their soulless, empty, egos. When you live in a world of ayatollahs, and Assads, and Putins, and far too many more, no one's dreams of happiness is safe, let alone the dreams of the individualist. To side with Iran over America is to decide to commit moral suicide. Was it hard, Germany? Or was it easier the second time around?
     
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    Trump appears like an idiot to a lot of people, but he became president and they didn't.

    Look we have only two politicians with the integrity worthy of being president, the Republican Rand Paul and the Democrat Tulsi Gabbard, but the ones holding the purse strings will never allow them. Our hope was that Trump could fight the war mongers and liberals so that someday we might be able to have a president with decorum as well as integrity.

    Anyway I haven't seen Merkel working for any country in the EU other than Germany, so why should Trump give a damn about any other country than the US?.
     
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    Well if you say so then it must be.




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    Why? Because I said it. Finito!
     
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    Not true because I say so; I say so for it is true, Iran is a despotic religious tyranny and sucks the life out of the living.

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    Don't believe me, believe her.

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Atefeh_Sahaaleh
     
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    The Iranian Islamic Theocracy is evil, pure and simple. Those who defend it have lost their moral minds.
     
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    He got it when his father died.

    A guy like Trump would never become leader in Europe. When he talks you feel ashamed. He appears like a moron and without any basic intellect. Primitive at best.
     
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    You execute people, they execute people.

    You sponsor terrorists, they sponsor terrorists.


    You are basicly the same. Maybe thats the problem.
     
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    Has USA abolished death penalty finally, that you condemn it?

    Meanwhile your best buddy Saudi Arabia wants crucify a 16 year old kid.

    Dude one thing for you. critisize Iran only for **** that you dont do yourself or your best buddies do.

    You can twitch it like you want. Germany will not allow war in Iran. France will not allow you war with Iran. UK too made clear it wont allow you war with Iran.

    Your sanctions did not stop german trade with Iran. It got cut in half but still is hundreds of millions. Same counts for France and UK.
     
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    Silly girl, don't you know "Tricks" are for kids.

    Your argument is a fallacy; If a man has the right to live as he chooses than he has the right to murder. The error is in equating murdering with living; death with life, despair with happiness. The choice isn't between murder or be murdered, it's life or death.

    Or as stated by Ayn Rand: "The issue is not slavery for a “good” cause versus slavery for a “bad” cause; the issue is not dictatorship by a “good” gang versus dictatorship by a “bad” gang. The issue is freedom versus dictatorship. "--http://aynrandlexicon.com/lexicon/freedom.html

    So no, Not Iran, not America, not Venzeuala, not Russia, not China, not any person, tribe, religion, or nation, and I mean no one, has the right to murder, enslave, rob, rape, cheat, lie, steal, slander, libel, or any other vice that violates the rights of the individual, no matter who that individual may be.

    BTW: Your poem capture's Lennon's philosophy in his song Strawberry Fields, especially about just strutting along. Just a side note. Nothing profound.
     
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    Germany has no other choice. With no natural resources, they must appease those they may have to depend on.
     

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