GERMANY JOINS CHORUS CASTING DOUBT ON TRUMP ADMINISTRATION CLAIM THAT IRAN WAS BEHIND ATTACK ON OIL

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  1. vman12

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    Really.

    Who did.
     
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    How did they know there was another unexploded mine on the ship.
     
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    Saudi Arabia.
     
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    Propably saw it while rescue the crew. The mine was removed after the crew was rescued.

    You can twist it as you want.

    USA cant attack Iran without allies. You have no allies. Not a single European nation follows you in this madness.
     
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    Right.

    Iran has a long history of rescuing ships attacked by others. They are always helpful.

    If you want to think the US can't or won't attack without the two blow up rafts the EU would send, you'd be very wrong.

    As I've said many times, you can believe whatever you want though. I'm not trying to convince you of anything.
     
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    Right.

    And their evidence is?
     
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    Its not blow up rafts, Its the support you need. You dont need to convince me. Your fat foreign blob tingles around the world right now to find allies. So far he has none.

    As long Germany, France and UK stand ifront Iran, its untouchable for you.

    You would never dare to attack a country protected by your closest allies. And we see that. Your blob in charge is nervous and blew it off. Beside that, Iran is full of French, Germans and British staff.
     
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    GPS Data.
     
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    Uh huh.

    GPS data showing what.
     
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    According to Israelinewslive's sources in Israel, the mines were put there by Al Queda members of the Arab Emirates and were made to look like it was Iran's doing.
     
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    Sounds as plausible as other theories.

    @Sobo So you think Saudi Arabia did this? Was it to help Trump and Bolton build a case for military intervention? I hope you are right when you say the U.S. would not enter a conflict with Iran without key allies. I'm not so sure. I think Trump sees his polls slipping and there is nothing harder that beating a sitting President during a conflict/war. Maybe he will try this. Trump has already said he can bypass congress on this and of course Bolton cannot wait to start dropping bombs.
     
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    Uhhh, guess who was with Trump in the Far East, Tucker Carlson the peacenik. Bolton was shipped to Mongolia.
     
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    That the speed boats came from saudi coast.

    Germany, France and UK all say it was not Iran. USa is isolated in this. Your Pompeo tried to get allies but failed.
     
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    I see.

    And these "speedboats" have an effective operating range of around 400km to hit the target and then get home?
     
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    They get transported on other ships and launched from nearby harbor.
     
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    The closest location they could have launched from in the UAE, hit the target, and returned is a round trip of about 400km.

    Please explain.

    Screenshot_2019-07-03 Two oil tankers attacked in Gulf of Oman.png
     
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    Why should i?

    Iran would not profit from this. Cui bono? USA and Saudi Arabia.
     
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    So you can't actually explain how SA convinced UAE to launch the worlds only invisible "speedboats" that have a range of 400 km.

    I'm just supposed to accept that Iran wouldn't profit from it.

    Did Iran profit from any of it's other terrorism?
     
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    Might be the work of elite frogmen trained by the mossad. ::):
     
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    That ****ing Tom Cruise again.
     
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    Think Tom, and his mission impossible persona are both scientologists. If anyone's "false flagin' " Iran .... it's the Jooos! :lol:
     
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    It now seems clear that, in spite of the claims by Liberals, Trump does NOT want war with Iran. Which is what I've been saying all along. Since the claim that Trump was trying to frame Iran in order
    to come up with an excuse for war has been shown to be false, what reason would he have for staging the tanker attacks? Considering that Iran has been engaged in this type of activity in the past,
    that they want to strike back for the sanctions, and that they want to show themselves tough to their oppressed population, the claim that Iran is behind the tanker attacks is the most logical explanation.
     
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