Global Warming My Arse

LOL, that was weak. It is now called climate change. You going to deny it? Do you see "conspiracies" everywhere?

 

I'm assuming you're talking about Arrhenius' equation from 1896. And you're right. It doesn't work for all concentration. However, it does work pretty well for concentrations in typical ranges. It's also really simple. You can compute a radiative forcing within a matter of seconds. It's still in use today because of it's simplicity. However, this isn't the holy grail. Not by a long shot. It is but one among many lines of evidence. And it happens to be a pretty insignificant one at that. Afterall, it is a really simple model developed more than 120 years ago to make the first prediction of the warming that would occur. We have far more complicated models in use today. Again, it's usefulness is in it's simplicity. We can quickly derive order of magnitude estimates of various scenario's with reasonable accuracy without invoking more complicated models. You don't think climate scientists are fully aware of all of this?

 

Who are "they"?

 

Who?
What group?

Right wing radio shock jocks?

 

First, "climate change" is term coined by Murray Mitchell. Coincidentally (or maybe not) he also happened to coin the term "global warming". The former was first used in academic literature in the 1950's and the later in the 1960's. That's right..."climate change" predates "global warming". Nevermind, that Arrhenius first predicted global warming in 1896. He just used phrases like "the warming of the Earth" instead of the shorthand "global warming".

Second, I don't know which two decades you are referring to, but there's definitely been significant warming of the geosphere (mainly in the hydrosphere) after WWII which is the time at which the anthroprogenic modulation really began ramping up. Note that the heat uptake really took off in the last 4 decades and especially the last 2 decades.

 

The faithful believers and the propaganda pushers. I was tempted to treat this rhetorically.

 

I'm sorry. I think you're confused. At no time has the scientific consensus ever been that the Earth would cool. The only people predicting cooling right now are skeptics/deniers and the occasional lone dissenter among the scientific community. And they've been predicting cooling for 50+ years now. And they keep getting it wrong. Meanwhile the scientific consensus keeps getting it right. And has been getting it right for 120 years ever since Arrhenius made the first prediction of anthroprogenic warming back in 1896.

 

CO2 concentrations were much higher in the past. Temperatures were also much higher even though the Sun was significantly dimmer. But solar luminosity and greenhouse gases aren't the only factors governing the climate. The IPCC considers dozens of factors. The big 4 are solar radiation, greenhouse gases, aerosols, and albedo. Just considering these 4 factors climate scientists can piece together much of the paleoclimate record. Aerosols are a huge component that have been implicated in some of Earth's ice ages even with high CO2 concentrations. That's because aerosols block incoming shortwave radiation. Remember, CO2's heat trapping effect is significantly reduced when incoming radiation is also reduced. In fact, that's happening today. Our aerosol emissions are producing a cooling effect that is currently canceling out 50% of our greenhouse gas effect. Anyway, the IPCC has no theory that results in a Venus-like runaway greenhouse gas effect so I don't know what the Lavoisier Group is even talking about.

 

And who are they? Come on link to a group please

Can you find evidence at the USCC? Is there evidence of this in the IPCC? Or have you gotten this from Alex "the frogs are gay" Jones?

 

Do you live in a cave? Just listen to any Democrat leader bloviate about it.

 

Live in Australia and can you link me to said person?

Warning linking to Al Gore will trigger a rebuttal using Lord Monckton as a prime example of a denialist idiot so dense he forms his own gravity well

 

What's the point of your uneducated climate change denial?

 

So you deny the science because you hate Democrats?

 

I certainly deny pseudo science with a political agenda. There, I fixed it for you!

 

Why do people not take the time to understand the difference between weather and climate? Global warming doesn't mean that winter isn't colt. It means that the average global tempature is rising. This is what causes colder winters and stronger storms. There is a major climate shift happening, which will eventually lead to a new ice age. Global warming is only one part of the overall climate cycle.

 

I wouldn't suggest global warming your arse it sounds painful and potentially messy.

 

Since when have Democrats been worried about spending money?

A lot of misguided forest management policies are contributing to the increased fire risk. But there are other factors contributing to the fire problem, including climate change.

We? A lot of people warned the government, including some in their own party.

Climate change deniers are clueless, but they haven't caused the fires.

 

Example of said pseudo science please

 

See globull warming propaganda for examples.

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pseudo-science (noun)

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You trying to reason with these people...

 

Do you think global warming isn't happen or that greenhouse gases aren't the cause?

If it's the former show me a dozen or so datasets which computer a global mean surface temperature or oceanic heat content that show no warming since WWII.

If it's the later explain how the troposphere and hydrosphere can be warming while the stratosphere cools.

 

You convinced me that many Trumpites are becoming unhinged.

 

5 pages of non-scientists fighting over global warming, hmm :/

 

WHAT!!

 

Yeah, I ignored that post from TheGreatSatan. It was about on par with believing Bush 43 orchestrated the 9/11 attacks.