God will win. Win What?

God will win? God will when?

#winning

 

god will triumph over the whole world? world peace and all that jazz, just for loving one another?

so the muslims who love one another, and the hindus who love one another .... they will also be recipients of this triumphal wonder? and how do you think this 'message' of loving one another will be driven home to the Buddhists and the Taoists, etc? given they aren't Christians, and are unlikely to become Christians, etc.

if you have no answer for the above, does this mean your god triumph thing is only a partial triumph? let's assume that's what you're saying ... how does a partial triumph work, exactly? is it geographical? will there be clear signs that an individual has been gifted triumph? like, will they sparkle or something? or float? how will it go down?

 

If the entire humanity would only follow GOD and with the the belief that we should love one another and relinquish evil unconditionally then GOD's triumph is complete. Global peace is the ultimate gift and with the reigning love of course they would help each other. That is the Christian pespective.

For the other forms of faith if they follow the same then it's still okay, one must know that relinquishing evil and love are universal and if it ultimately followed by the entire humanity then religion differences will never become a hindrance for harmony and unity.

 

Yes, but there is intention behind every person's actions, and we humans have to make the sincere intention in worshiping and pleasing God in whatever we do.

It is the intention that matters.

 

What places in the scripture does this idea of victory come from. I'm neither Christian nor well versed in the bible so I'd like to know a little more about this question's origins before I respond.

 

And we have a christian poster who posts, according to revelations, world peace will be achieved. The anti-christ, with satan, will achieve it, then God will come and destroy it all.
Can we get 2 christians to tell us what God will win? Probably not, as God is whatever one wants God to be, even if they sit in the same pew.

 

one told me God brainwashes people before they enter heaven so that they all get along and don't feel sad for the people left behind or being punished by their God

 

No. We don't. Much of the world doesn't worship the god of abraham. So this doesn't even matter to them. But for abrahamic god worshippers, they have to make choices that can never be changed from what is already known.

 

From my christian upbringing. God will conquer satan. Push satan into the lake of fire or some eternal torment pit. All non-believers will then be cast with satan to this place. All believers will be risen to live in eternal paradise.
This is the victory of God that I have been told and remember.
And it is said in scripture, how difficult it will get to eternal paradise. So many more souls/people, will be with satan. Then you have 1/2 the world, not even part of the abrahamic religion. Supposedly also all cast with satan. All will be 'living' good and evil. But somehow God has won.

 

including the person that started the myth, wonder what his true intentions were, was it to destroy the current religion in power, replace it with his own flavor... we may never know

 

GOD wins those who would follow, as I may reiterate.
But it's already foretold that a multitude of humanity with inherent weaknesses would succumb with evil deeds adhering towards Satan.
GOD will come again and cleanse the world and claims GOD's creation which GOD truly owns.
GOD actually did not confined us GOD give us free will.

Joshua 24:15
And if it is evil in your eyes to serve the Lord, choose this day whom you will serve, whether the gods your fathers served in the region beyond the River, or the gods of the Amorites in whose land you dwell. But as for me and my house, we will serve the Lord.”

 

And satan wins those who don't. Pointless.

Sure, more than those who follow god.

The omni everything knew all this before creation. Had the power to do something about it before creation. What is the point of the silly game?

'free will' to choose what is already known by omniscience. With no ability to change what is already known. It would already be known before creation who, how many, would be at each eternal place. Omniscience.

Joshua 24:15
And if it is evil in your eyes to serve the Lord, choose this day whom you will serve, whether the gods your fathers served in the region beyond the River, or the gods of the Amorites in whose land you dwell. But as for me and my house, we will serve the Lord.”

 

Interesting. Well if we aren't going to go read some passages from the bible. I remember from my own Christian upbringing god never actually being in contest with satan at all. Satan instead was cut off from both earth and heaven and in the final days he and all non-believers are cast into the lake of fire where they burn for eternity. I don't remember it being so much a triumph as a conclusion to the story of creation. But neither of us is citing biblical passages so likely we are both wrong.

 

He will have established Truth.

He created Truth as the goal to emerge from the Reality he unfolds moment by moment.

 

... yes,... Extinction is "he lake of fire where they burn for eternity"...

 

that's fantastic

 

I'll rephrase it, in the hopes of getting an actual answer...

if all of humanity evolved enough to actually be good to one another unconditionally, it would be down the efforts of the people who choose that path. - it would have nothing to do with gods. and more importantly, your particular god could not possibly have any involvement, given most of the world don't subscribe to it. if such a thing came to pass, the triumph would be ours alone.

if, however, you're saying only your god can bring about 'triumph', then it must necessarily be a PARTIAL triumph - given most of the world ain't Christian. still waiting for you to explain how a partial triumph works

of course, you could be saying the whole world must first become Christian (which would be funny, but seriously nutty). If so, then clearly your god is never going to triumph. of course, he'd have foreseen this, since he's omniscient etc, so it's odd that he claimed he'd be back to do a victory dance. then again, jesus said he'd be back within a lifespan, and here we are 2000 years later, still waiting.

 

It's never been pointless if you could see the actual events of the world today. GOD created us not in the sense that we should be slaves but followers based on our free will. Of course those who don't follow will go with satan and eternal damnation into hell imposed. We are capable either to be imperfect and perfect within the eyes of GOD and we are given the freedom to choose which, would you prefer Hate or would you prefer Love, the choice is yours hence free will. If Love would prevail within you truly God wins your being.

Jeremiah 13:10
This evil people, which refuse to hear my words, which walk in the imagination of their heart, and walk after other gods, to serve them, and to worship them, shall even be as this girdle, which is good for nothing

 

for some maybe, depends how much one values free will

 

I've never been able to figure out that if this god is so goll-durn all-powerful, why there's even a battle in the first place. Shouldn't the heiney kicking have been over a long time ago?

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I always liked Q!

 

do you think the world is worse today than it was in the past?
how is that god doesn't want us to be slaves, but 'requests' we worship him or burn in the lake of fire for eternity?
do you think we're 'free' to choose, when threatened with eternal torture for making the wrong choice?
do you think there is only 'hate and love' to choose from, as do small children?
and how do you explain love prevailing within someone who doesn't believe in god? what happens to that person? does your god care more about being worshipped than he does about us being good people?

 

because the little scared men who wrote the book couldn't think beyond their own tribal squabbles. apparently the all-powerful god couldn't inspire anything better

Q rocks!

 

remember, this is the God they said drowned every man, women and child, animal, ect... except a boat load, for the fun of it, cause as we know, he could of just wiggled his nose and his will be done, so why not just make them disappear

I mean that would be Andrea Yates on steroids.. could our God have mental problems?

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The Holy Bible was provided to guide and to influence for all of us and factually we have the freedom to follow or not.
Follow and GOD would triumph and you would become one of the contributors for peace on Earth for Love would reign and GOD's desire is fulfilled.

 

any chance you could address the points made in my post?