God's Peace Plan for the Holy Land... this booklet is brilliant!

I was referring to 1 Samuel 15:3

 

Yes.............. King Saul was commanded to do total warfare on the Amalakites.

Heavy stuff!

http://www.blueletterbible.org/Bible.cfm?b=1Sa&c=15&t=KJV

 

Since Islam is totally incompatible with Judaism and Christianity, this "plan for the Holy Land" is doomed. And since Muslims believe the New Testament is not Jesus actual teaching but false teachings created by the Disciples in order to gain personal power, no Muslim can accept this "plan" which is based in part on the New Testament.

And the other main aspect of this "plan" is genetics linking all these people to a common ancestry. After 2,000+ years of killing and hating each other, I doubt DNA history means diddly to anyone.

 

The review of this plan by an Islamic scholar that I quoted in post #1 of another thread on this last year........ is evidence that some Islamic intellectuals are truly impressed by God's Peace Plan for the Holy Land.

 

If God wanted peace in the Holy Land, do you think he would really need a plan?

 

If G-d wants people to play a role in how peace comes to pass...… the way that people think can be changed by what they read and think about!


http://www.near-death.com/experiences/research32.html#a02

In my opinion...… we are dealing with an Ancient of Days the Father and an Ancient of Days the Mother (The Holy Spirit) who are so off the scale powerful that a moment in what we think of as the past can be replicated perfectly along with everybody who lived at that moment..... and then a totally new time line can be spun off that is much less violent than a previous time line.

Ezekiel chapter 37 does not happen merely once.... if we are indeed dealing with a G-d of Abraham/ HaShem/ Allah who wishes to lead everybody to salvation / paradise/ light/ love..... eventually!


Rom 11:32

http://www.carbonbias.blogspot.ca/

The Helen Wambach Ph. D. research that was completed by Dr. Chet Snow after her death clearly diverges from our time line around 1988 or '89..... but....... that does not mean that what those people reported seeing when progressed into a future while hypnotized could not possible have already happened in another time line.

What we humans think of as high level technology..... could be little more than bows and arrows in comparison to what may be available if life actually first occurred in fundamental energy in a much higher dimension of space time.

http://dwij.org/forum/future_link/future7.htm

 

Speaking of Samuel and King Saul and King David..... here is another aspect of the formula for either 2030 or perhaps 2070?!

 

I like the peace plan that's described in Zephaniah 1:2-5.

 

http://www.blueletterbible.org/Bible.cfm?b=Zep&c=1&t=KJV

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Back in 1965 Helen Wambach Ph. D. began a study in an attempt to disprove the idea of reincarnation.

As she got deeper into her research she personally became convinced that she had been in error and that reincarnation in some form was actually true. As an offshoot of her first study she progressed over 2000 people into the future and it sure looked like a ninety to ninety five percent depopulation of the earth took place by 2100 to 2200.


http://www.carolmoore.net/articles/helenwambach.html

If the G-d of Abraham/ HaShem creates different lines of time then we can admit that we really blew it in that other time line and change our ways of thinking and get it right in this time line so that ninety to ninety five percent of us are metaphorically consumed...… meaning that the ego..... the selfishness.... the pride....... is burned up out of our hearts and minds by the outpouring of the Ruach ha Kodesh/ The Holy Spirit!

"Ask and ye shall receive!"

 

The Wyrd of Gawd...… what do you think of the phrase in the following writing about God intervening and changing world events?

II Corinthians 12:2-4:
I knew a man in Christ above fourteen years ago, (whether in the body, I cannot tell; or whether out of the body, I cannot tell: God knoweth; ) such an one caught up to the third heaven.
And I knew such a man, (whether in the body, or out of the body, I cannot tell: God knoweth; )
How that he was caught up into paradise, and heard unspeakable words, which it is not lawful for a man to utter.



Rom 11:32

 

So that explains why they do absolutely none of the things Jesus told them to do?

Muslims mention Jesus, and they "revere" him,... as a great prophet,... but:

1) They do not abide by his ritual of the Eucharist. (John 6:54)

2) They do not love their enemies. (Matthew 5:43)

3) They do not believe "we all have the power to become the sons-of-God." (John 1:12)

4) They do not remember that in 32AD, Elijah returned from Heaven as an immortal, one who never died. (Matthew 17:12)

5) They do not believe in salvation by faith in The Truth. (John 14:6)

6) They do not believe in the resurrection through faith in Christ. (John 11:25)

7) They do not believe in the crucified suffering messiah. (Isaiah 53)


So what did Jesus say that made him a prophet and that muslim acknowledge and respect???

 

In the Old Testament, that was pretty much the Plan for a world which would only tolerate sexually prudent behaviors ad work aggressively to eradicate promiscuity.

It is/was much as the muslim societies see the world today.

Both the patriarchy-of-the-Hebrews and the present muslim communities were then taught further.
Jesus said that only education into the Truth would make people see that the Laws fail to work effectively against this promiscuity.

What is coming now is the truth.
People will now see the facts.
Fatherless kids are Child Abused.

Then, these same kids represent the body in society that causes the violent crime all the social problems.
The new world that us coming will be sexually prudent for its own good.

 

Muslims believe Jesus was a prophet who was a precursor to mohamud. Muslims believe Jesus teachings were altered by people seeking personal power, the New Testament is the result of these alterations but is not the word of God and has no authority. Jesus is mentioned as a prophet in the Koran and for that reason is respected.

They respect his teachings, but that's were the trickery comes into play. As you listed, Muslims reject most of what the Western world defines as Christianity. When a Muslim says Islam accepts Christians because Christians are also "people of the book", its a lie and word play. Because they reject the New Testament, they are free to define Christianity in an Islamic friendly manner. True Christians are considered infidels and blasphemers reviled by God and to be killed (the manner of killing outlined in the koran is pretty bloodthirsty, slow, and what you would expect from a religion of barbarians).

 

Thank you,...

That was informative, indeed.
Nevertheless, the muslims apparently do none of the things Christians believe and read about in the New Testament.

None.

They do seem to agree that Mary was a virgin who gave birth, I think.
But they ignore that Christ said he was The Truth, as an in deal and perfection in the concept.

Also, the ignore that the things Christ did were a repeat of the things Elijah did in 800BC.
This is a strong argument for Christ as the return of Elijah, which was promised by Malaci 4:6:







They both did the same miracles, which was traditionally supposed to identify Elijah when would come back.

Both Elijah and Jesus raised the dead

Both Elijah and Jesus were immortal.

Both Elijah and Jesus disappeared from the foot of a mountain.

Both Elijah and Jesus ascended into Heaven before witnesses.

Both Elijah and Jesus troubled Israel.

Both Elijah and Jesus were hunted down by the Jewish authorities.

Both Elijah and Jesus hid in a cave/tomb.

Both Elijah and Jesus pondered in the wilderness 40 days.

Both Elijah and Jesus walked on the water.

Both wrote letters to people on Earth after they had ascended.

Both appointed a successor, Elisha by Elijah, and Peter, by Christ.

Both were hunted by the Jewish authorities

Both gave a successor the power to raise the dead

Both gave a successor a symbolic authority, the cloak to one, the keys to the other.

Both asked that the this "cup" be taken from them.

Both are said to have had miraculous births.

Both multiplied the meal for many people they feed in the crowd

Both destroyed the pagan worshippers and priests, one Baal, the other, the Pantheon of Rome.

Both were promised faithfulness three times, Elisha in the former and Peter, in the latter.

 

Were either one of those characters real? If so they are overdue for a visit.

 

Partly because this is mentioned in the Dead Sea Scrolls I have came to believe that Rabbi Jesus/ Yeshua had an identical twin brother who also was one of the disciples.

Judas Didymus Thomas (Doubting Thomas).

You can begin to be introduced to The Twin in his modern form here:


http://www.thomastwin.com/3 A Autobio.html

 

Thank you for commenting Battle3.

Former fundamentalist Christian near death experiencer Kevin Williams has written some articles that I personally feel have the potential to radically improve the relationship between Christian Mystics with Islamic Mystics and Jewish Mystics.

Once the mystically inclined people from all three of the Abrahamic religions begin to cooperate with each other at a new level........... the atheistic community will know that the G-d of Abraham/ HaShem/ YHWH/ Allah must be at work.........… because only an astonishingly powerful force could get us to begin to get along better.




http://www.politicalforum.com/relig...d-son-good-prophet-prophet-muhammad-pbuh.html


I believe Abraham said "good son and good Prophet" to The Prophet Muhammad (pbuh)



If more Christian Mystics and even some Jewish Mystics will begin to discuss the theory that the Prophet Muhammad (peace be upon him) was in many ways a Prophet Like Unto Moses as well as perhaps King David or Elijah or the Patriarch Abraham reincarnated........ then peace will soon break out in the Middle East!!!!!!!!!

http://www.near-death.com/muslim.html

 

If God expects people and cultures to learn from their errors It is in for a rude awakening.

 

If the plan is really brilliant you should be able to summarize it so we can decide if it is worth reading all 54 pages.

 

Here is the two sentence summary by R. M.:


........ If you take the indigenous sacred books of almost everybody in the Holy Land (the Qur'an & the Bible's Old & New Testaments) and put them together, what you get is One Nation with two sub-states that correspond with the pre-1967 war borders, with the exception of Jerusalem, which isn't divided, but instead serves as united capital of the entire country. That's it in a nutshell.(R. M.)

 

Well........ perhaps planning and choreographing an essentially infinite number of Big Bang events over what for all intents and purposes would seem like "eternity" in the past............might tend to make one rather patient?!

Some of us might argue........... too patient?!

http://www.near-death.com/experiences/reincarnation04.html#a05

 

The Bermigo Plan.......is also one that I would term "brilliant" ......because the author postulated a method that actually had some hope of working.......but.........I was left with lots of doubts and questions....... that to my thinking.... have been answered by the amazing writing by Robert Mendelso.

.... for the record..... until I read "The Way of Holiness and the Sacred Hoop" also by Robert Mendelson........ I did not take God's Peace Plan for the Holy Land very seriously!


http://www.amazon.com/Taking-The-Israeli-Palestinian-Conflict-Outside/dp/0979633400

 

You have a major and insurmountable problem in that Christianity and Islam are mutually exclusive of each other. Islam flatly rejects Jesus crucifixion and resurrection, that is the very foundation stone of Christianity. With that incompatibility, Christians and Muslims are not compatible.

 

Battle3....... in November of 2012...… if you had told me that I was going to soon read a near death experience account that I would enjoy and love even more than that of Christian Andreason's..... I might have laughed at you but then................... a month later....... I went and read.........… the book in which the opening post of this discussion comes from:



http://www.politicalforum.com/relig...-teach-same-things-rabbi-nachman-breslov.html


Did Rabbi Jesus/Yehoshua teach the same things as Rabbi Nachman of Breslov?



For many years I have suspected that near death experience accounts and such phenomena as past life regression under hypnosis had the potential to greatly decrease discord between many religious groups. In December of 2012 I read a book that presents a powerful case that Rabbi Jesus may actually have taught his followers essentially all the same things that Rabbi Nachman of Breslov believed and taught!

Here is what he writes regarding what he saw Rabbi Jesus/Yehoshua state in one of his lectures to his disciples:

Bruce F. MacDonald Ph. D. page 117,118, "The Thomas Book, Near Death and a Quest for Another Gospel by the Twin Brother of Jesus".......

All of this began with a near death experience in 1966:

http://www.thomastwin.com/3 A Autobio.html

 

My impression of God's Peace Plan for the Holy Land and The WAy of Holiness and the Sacred Hoop, (the second book by Robert Mendelson)….is ultimately the application of universal salvation……. applied to politics, economics, diplomacy, job creation, literacy, health care and longevity…… applied to all Israelis as well as all Palestinians?!