GREAT AGAIN: Unlike Obama, Trump doesn’t bow to Saudi king

Michelle Obama did not have her head covered either and this is what Trump said:

Donald J. Trump‏Verified account @realDonaldTrump
Many people are saying it was wonderful that Mrs. Obama refused to wear a scarf in Saudi Arabia, but they were insulted.We have enuf enemies

Y'all a bunch of hypocrites.

 

Don't forget the Citadel in South Carolina.

Citadel alumni were killed in action during the Mexican–American War (6), Civil War (67), World War I (15), World War II (280), Korean War (32), Vietnam War ( 6 8 ) Lebanon (1), Grenada (1), the Gulf War (1), and the current conflicts in Iraq and Afghanistan ( 18 )

VMI has to be the most recognized.

Chesty Puller and George S. Patton both attended VMI.

 

Yeah, right.

 

Yes, I met Ibn Saud, Saud, Fahd, Abdullah and Salman.. also princes Sultan, and Nayef. I have also had dinner at Murabba Palace where Trump dined.

 

If you lived on the Left Coast I would say I might know you.

 

only time Trump bowed is when they offer to shower him with gold, that he could not resist

 

I went back for two weeks as a guest of Salman. Fahd published a book I co wrote. He published it in Arabic with pictures.

 

Salman is pretty fragile .. He used to be 6'2".......

 

Which FLOTUS covered her head in Saudi?

 

Covering the hair is NEVER expected of Western women.. I can't think of a single head of state to cover her hair in Arabia.. Michelle, Hillary didn't Merkel didn't, Princess Diana didn't. Condaleeza Rice didn't..

I think Barbara Walters did cover her hair in blue silk.

I have met 5 Saudi kings and never covered my hair.

 

"Business is business" is the only thing that can hold a diverst world together, everything that relies on human nature makes a solid base.

 

Emmm, excuse me but you made it sound as if Israel just made a thing with Iran for no reason, it's Iran that calls for Israel destruction and it's Iran that sealed itself from the US, Israel - to those who recognize it on the map - is neutral from its own intersts aspect to the whole thing in th egulf, we simply talk and trade with those that do not seek our destruction and do not engage in it in any noticable way, that's it. thing is its a very comfortable start point for many countries that dont have our destruction in their agenda - but we are far from being "the head of the snake" vs. Iran.

 

The issues between Iran and Israel are multi-faceted, with some of them going to the very ideological foundation of each state as presently constituted. But what has brought Israel to abandon its past policy of actually lobbying the US to find some rapprochement with Iran (as was the case during the 1980s, when Iran was actually at the height of its revolutionary zeal, with the Iran-contra affair partly driven by the Israelis and their push for Reagan to try to reach out to Iran) is ultimately two things: first, Hezbollah and its rise in power and, yes, its success against Israel (kicking Israel out of S.Lebanon and in the 2006 war), making the Israelis almost obsessed with Hezbollah and Iran. Second, an alliance that has been built between the Israelis and the military industrial complex in the US in a project for a so-called New American Century, which is a project that has, in figures like Netanyahu, a strong cheerleader and advocate.

If Israel moves away from the latter agenda in particular, and stops advocating the policies it advocates against Iran or, at least, does it on more honest grounds so that there is room to try to find a way forward, down the line there might be some light at the end of the tunnel. But there is no such light right now and it doesn't matter who you want to blame for the situation. It doesn't matter because I am sure the current Israeli posture is self-defeating. Indeed, it is a bit ironic that Israel gave up its doctrine of Alliance of the Periphery when it might have actually begun to resonate with a greater number of people in Iran. I say this because the best you can hope for with some of these Sunni Arab states you are making friends with right now, such as Wahhabi Arabia, is a temporary affair between two sides who don't have much in common except their hatred of someone else. With that someone else being someone who one of these party's in the affair could actually develop a lasting relationship if it shows a bit of patience, a bit of self-restraint, and some good judgment.

 

What a stupid, arrogant post. Please explain what you find so embarrassing about conforming to the traditions of international protocol, especially as they apply to the cultural norms and customs of the host nation; for example, Japan. Bowing is a sign of deference and respect, and not submission. You should learn what a real American is. A thin-skinned, paranoid and whiny snowflake like Trump, who complains about everybody else, is not it. He has succeeded in making America look weak, indecisive and chaotic and has engendered more political scandal and upheaval than any president in US history. That's some achievement.

 

OK, ladies, you win. My mind must have flashed on the Barbara Walters memory.

 

The level of nonsense in the post is outright ludicrous. The debt has not gone down. The deficit for 2017 is currently projected at $400B.

The economy was in a complete tailspin when Obama took office. While he was president the economy added more jobs and over saw more job growth than during any president term ever. Trump got to start halfway between third base and home.

Bowing is not a sign of submission it is a traditional greeting that shows respect. Not bowing would be like not shaking someones hand in the US. Kind of rude.

 

Lots of ugliness in this post. Bowing is not a sign of submission it is a respectful greeting. Similar to shaking someones hand in the US, not doing so is rude.

That said, international relations is not governed by your ridiculous sense of behavior. It is well established that actors in international relations behave rationally. They act in order to best promote their self-interest. Nobody give a **** about bowing or apology tours or whatever you think matters.

 

True.. I think Obama was showing respect for a much older man who has a track record of effective leadership. Salman is old and frail now, but he is wise and kind and very pro-America

 

I repped you for you post, but to be clear, I think being rude isn't necessarily a bad thing when it comes to the Wahhabis. If for nothing else, because they are gluttonous pigs who throw around their petrodollars for much that is wrong.

Talking about manners, etiquette and customs, I thought it might be interesting to post how the current "king" of Wahhabi Arabia, Salman, acted when the Shah visited their desert fiefdom during his reign. Whatever anyone might say about the Shah, in those days the Wahhabis at least knew their place a lot more than they know now.

 

Thanks for posting the video.. Salman is a great man .. I think you have a sour grapes problem ..."at least the Wahhabis knew their place"... That's the essense of Iran's problems around the world.

 

The current regime in Iran has bent backwards to appease the Saudis to convince them to pursue a different path in their relationship with Iran, but to no avail. The Shah, on the other hand, was openly contemptuous of the Saudis and their entire culture and, to be frank, the "light of the Aryans" (one of the Shah's titles) was often even racist towards the Arabs. Yet, just as the Wahhabis greet Trump warmly despite knowing full well that Trump has nothing but contempt for them in his heart, they used to grovel in front of the Shah as well.

 

So leave Saudi Arabia alone... When you post I get the uncomfortable feeling that Iran's problem is an inferiority complex. You think the Saudis were groveling? The Saudis honor the US president regardless of who holds office.

 

Inferiority complex against whom? I would rather die than be a Wahhabi. There is absolutely nothing in their culture, in their values, or anything else about them, which I have any interest in. You would have to be an idiot to even compare Persian culture with Wahhabi barbarism.

 

Then leave KSA alone.. Don't mess with the Arabian peninsula. Tend to your OWN business.

 

If you google "Saudi Arabia's obsession with Iran", you will get more than 600,000+ hits on the subject, with a host of articles from various sources (including the New York Times) with that in their title! When you google "Iran obsession with Saudi Arabia", you get 490,000+ hits but when you look, they are all the same articles that talk about the Saudi obsession with Iran! So I think your admonition is better directed elsewhere.