GROUNDED: Trump Just Postponed Pelosi's Overseas Trip Minutes Before Departure .....

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  1. MMC

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    Trump offers 'Dreamers' a path to citizenship, wants other ...
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    Jan 26, 2018 · WASHINGTON (Reuters) - U.S. President Donald Trump is offering a path to citizenship for up to 1.8 million young illegal immigrants but insists on measures that would curb some legal immigration programs and provide a border wall …


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    President Donald Trump proposes a plan that provides a path to citizenship for 1.8 million young immigrants known as "Dreamers". In a statement Thursday night, Pelosi said the framework was "part of the Trump Administration's unmistakable campaign to make America white again.". Democratic Whip Dick Durbin, D-Ill.,...


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    Trump supports path to citizenship for up to 1.8 million ‘dreamers’ in new White House proposal. The Migration Policy Institute has estimated that up to 1.3 million dreamers were eligible for DACA last year, with another 600,000 who could become eligible if they met certain requirements.


    You need some new material.....the suggestion is try and stick with actual reality.
     
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    Natty Bumpo Well-Known Member

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    When were Democrats in control of either house of Congress from 2017 thru 2018?
     
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    You might want to read the link. You wouldn't look so foolish
     
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    No they just told HER she couldn't do it.
     
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    Diversion noted.

    Republicans have, and had, control of what bills get considered for a floor vote. They do not, nor did not, have control over what bills make it to the floor, let alone have, or had, control over what measures would pass.

    But, you know that.
     
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    The same poll touted as showing increased Hispanic support for Lyin' Don shows the dismal assessment by both Whites and Blacks plunging even further.

    Pelosi's latest approval/disapproval numbers show her at -13; Schumer at -8; Trump now down to -15.3.

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    So they told her to fly commercial if she wanted... And then told her she couldn't do that when she went forward with their suggestion? Also, they leaked the flight plans... Thus increasing the danger for our troops and our congress reps who were going to be on the flight.. His actions were unequivocally irresponsible. Nancy uninviting him to congress did not put his life in danger or others.
     
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    Diversion noted.

    Republicans were in control of both houses of Congress throughout two years of Trumpery.
     
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    The tools of trumpery love those tantrumps, but polls of Americans consistently confirm they are not nearly as delightful for most folks.
     
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    I explained that to Leatherstocking a week ago.

    Unfortunately, knowledge doesn't always beget honesty...
     
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    It's never too late to do the right thing!
     
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    They leaked no flight plans. The president told her she could, but then State came in and said no. He’s actions were justice, and right...she needs to stay and work. Moreover it was she that claimed the Capitol wasn’t secure, how in te world does she expect Buseels to be???
     
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    According to Pelosi and others it was leaked. Yes, she was petty. This move by Trump was also petty, put people's lives in danger and was beneath the office of the president.
     
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    OK. Double down.
     
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    "After she threatened to cancel the SOTU, Trump told Pelosi her upcoming trip overseas was cancelled. Boom. Because of the shutdown. He also canceled a planned trip by several of his Cabinet members to the annual economic forum and schmooze-fest in Davos, Switzerland. So where is the downside to *any* of this? I'm telling you, this government shutdown is getting better and better each day."

    http://ace.mu.nu/archives/379215.php#379215
     
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    Too bad there wasn't an unfortunate mix-up with the luggage.
     
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    Keeping the Speaker and her allies here to work on opening the Govt is what the President should do. It was likely leaked by her staff...much like the Dr. Ford story was leaked by Dems
     
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    Do you have any evidence to back up that her staff leaked her flight plans? Based upon multiple posts I have seen from you, you need hard evidence in order to come to conclusions.
     
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    This incident is so much more than a 'pissing contest' as someone above so delicately put it.

    "The purpose of the trip was to express appreciation and thanks to our men and women in uniform for their service and dedication, and to obtain critical national security & intelligence briefings from those on the front lines". The canceled visit was known as a Codel trip — which means details are kept under wraps until the plane lands safely. Congress never announces these trips. Codel trips to military conflict fronts usually occur a few times a year.

    The Codel to Afghanistan included a required stop in Brussels for pilot rest. In Brussels, the delegation was scheduled to meet with top NATO commanders, US military leaders and key allies–to affirm the United States’ ironclad commitment to the NATO alliance. This last part is key to the reason Trump cancelled the government jet for the Codel. It wasn't just his regular petulant child behavior, he wants the U.S. to pull out of NATO, this is what Putin wants more than anything. This is the real reason he didn't want to allow them to get even close to the NATO summit. General Mattis had fully intended to remain in his position until after the NATO conference and had planned to attend to reassure NATO that the U.S. is there with them.

    Military transportation is always available to the House speaker or congressional delegations when they travel abroad on government business, it's vital for national security. By announcing this in advance, Trump jeopardized not only members of Congress, but the locations that they would be stopping are secret military locations, and those serving in those bases could have been placed at risk as well.

    On Thursday, Trump said he was revoking a military flight for the Codel, suggesting Pelosi fly commercial instead. the Codel was notified before it became public and the entire contingent was prepared to do exactly that, take commercial flights, until Trump spilled the beans publicly. The fact that Trump would leak that they were planning to fly commercial is a danger not only to those Congressmen but to many other people.

    Pelosi spokesman Drew Hammill said:
    "In the middle of the night, the State Department's Diplomatic Security Service provided an updated threat assessment detailing that the President announcing this sensitive travel had significantly increased the danger to the delegation and to the troops, security, and other officials supporting the trip. This morning, we learned that the Administration had leaked the commercial travel plans as well."

    Hammill said that "in light of the grave threats caused by the President's action, the delegation has decided to postpone the trip so as not to further endanger our troops and security personnel, or the other travelers on the flights."


    In his letter to Pelosi, Trump wrote, “In light of the 800,000 great American workers not receiving pay, I am sure you would agree that postponing this public relations event is totally appropriate.” But just hours later, First Lady Melania Trump reportedly used another military aircraft to fly to Florida for a weekend vacation at the Trump family’s private Mar-a-Lago resort. (The White House didn’t immediately return Fortune‘s request for comment on the first lady’s trip.)
     
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    As much evidence as I’ve seen from Nancy supporting her claim
     
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    Strawman. Who said I support Pelosi? I think she is a wide eyed bat shyt crazy witch, and she is being juvenile, but then again, you support a juvenile to be in the WH. And LOL at your deflection. Do you or do you not support that establishment hack McConnell who have been re-elected FIVE times? People don't want change. It's just a bumper sticker rhetoric.

    By the way, did Trump LIED....again??

    https://abc7ny.com/pelosi-cancels-trip-accuses-white-house-of-security-leak/5096012/
     
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    Like I said, Trump is a juvenile moron.
     
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    Popularity doesn't have anything to with the wall issue. That being said. now more of what you don't like seeing.


    Favorability Ratings: U.S. Political Leaders
    Favorable Unfavorable Spread
    Donald Trump 40.5 56.3 -15.8
    Nancy Pelosi 34.8 46.5 -11.7
    Mitch McConnell 25.0 47.7 -22.7
    Chuck Schumer 30.7 42.7 -12.0



    Looks like Pelosi and Schumer are polling lower like I said. Polling lower means, Trump is polling higher than them. Like RCP shows.

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    Trump Job Approval: YouGov 45% <<<<< looks like they have gone up for Trump according to this leftist poll. Up from 38 from the leftists poll.


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    ABC/WaPo Poll: Support for Border Wall Soars Among Swing ...
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    2 days ago · Some good news for Trump on the border wall in new ABC/WaPo Poll: Support for a border wall increased from 34% to 42% Among college-educated, up 13pts Among Independents, up 11pts Among midwesterners, up 14pts Among 18-39 yr. olds, up 5pts Among nonwhites, up 6pts — Ryan James Girdusky (@RyanGirdusky) January 13, 2019


    The funny thing about you leftists is....you think people forget whats posted after a few pages have turned in a thread or they forget whats posted in some other thread that you all know you have seen.
     
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    Poor Nancy....no mussels in Brussels on the military dime.
     
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    Now I know a couple of pages flipped over. But nice try. But then the leftness forgets about those that already jumped the gun.



    Drew Hammill, a spokesman for Pelosi (D-Calif.), on Friday blamed the Trump administration in a written statement for revealing news of the trip, which was set to include several other House Democrats.

    “After President Trump revoked the use of military aircraft to travel to Afghanistan, the delegation was prepared to fly commercially to proceed with this vital trip to meet with our commanders and troops on the front lines,” Hammill said.

    Overnight, he added, a new State Department threat assessment indicated “that the president announcing this sensitive travel had significantly increased the danger to the delegation and to the troops, security, and other officials supporting the trip. . . . This morning, we learned that the administration had leaked the commercial travel plans as well.”

    Well, that last point is trash:


    Francesca Chambers

    @fran_chambers







    NEW: Senior official tells me it's a "flat out lie" the WH would leak info that would threaten Americans' safety. "When the Speaker of the house and about 20 others from Capitol Hill decide to book their own commercial flights to Afghanistan, the world is going to find out."



    9:51 AM - Jan 18, 2019


    In all, the lead negotiator and one of the principal actors in ending this shutdown tried to leave the country...again. Talk about great moments in leadership, huh? Also, it shows that Democrats, as we've known since day one of Shutdown theater, are more concerned about scoring points against the Trump administration and blocking its initiatives than re-opening the government and trying to grow the economy.....snip~

    https://townhall.com/tipsheet/mattv...he-country-during-the-shutdown-again-n2539248
     

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