Guccifer 2.0 - Game Over

Discussion in 'Latest US & World News' started by Striped Horse, Jul 19, 2018.

  1. LangleyMan

    LangleyMan Well-Known Member

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    It was very close. We'll never know if the emails made a difference.

    By continuing to claim he would have won without the emails, Trump keeps the speculation about collusion alive.
     
  2. Tim15856

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    No, never Trumper's keep the speculation alive due to their delusions.
     
  3. LangleyMan

    LangleyMan Well-Known Member

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    It's from the forum management.
    When you take control of the forum, you can set the policies.
     
  4. LangleyMan

    LangleyMan Well-Known Member

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    Get a clue. We haven't had "open borders." You're repeating a lie.
     
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    The emails on the DNC server?

    No credible evidence exists to prove who stole them and exposed the truth abot billary
     
  6. LangleyMan

    LangleyMan Well-Known Member

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    You don't know how the internet works, either. You say so many crazy things, one wonders what you see when you look out at the world.
    Maybe you're a Russian.
    Another bunch of BS.
     
  7. Mac-7

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    So how come the russian woman is in America instead of russia?
     
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  8. LangleyMan

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    Trump might not have won without the release of the stolen emails.
     
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    Why don't you then?
     
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    Or if hillary had campaigned in Wisconsen

    The problem is you cant prove who stole the emails

    But even if you could no one has denied the truth that they represented about hillary

    And that was crooked hillarys basic problem

    She was unpopular and unelectable
     
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  11. LangleyMan

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    Because she has a visa.
     
  12. LangleyMan

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    I do many things at the same time, not just two.
     
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    The anguish and despair, actual tears and bawling from the critical left over Hillary's loss suggests the emails made no difference to them. I'm told the deplorables are in lockstep and vote the party line no matter what, so no difference to them either.
     
  14. Tim15856

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    Hillary lost with her deplorable comment. The first batch of emails were released months before the election, did the polls change much at all? Is there any evidence at all that anyone changed their vote because of the emails? I bet someone had a poll.
     
  15. LangleyMan

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    Or she wasn't a cold fish.
    Someone released the emails. I'll leave it up to the authorities to deal with the perps.
    She came very close to winning in spite of her shortcomings.
     
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    Yes, spending time assembling facts is not your forte. Jumping to predictable and group-think opinions seems to be your speciality.

    And you're in good company. The number of members on this forum who appear gain their great knowledge from dozing in front of the TV news and who eschew reading in-depth analysis and facts seems to be growing, not diminishing.

    Way to go!
     
  17. Striped Horse

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    Actually we do know. Former UK Ambassador, Craig Murray, has gone on the record to publicly disclose that he personally took delivery of a "package" containing that material from a Washington "insider" whistleblower who "had legal access to the information", during a visit to Washington in September 2016. It was a leak not a hack he stated.

    https://www.washingtontimes.com/multimedia/image/craigmurrayjpg/
     
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    Agreed. I'm no longer surprised by the opinionated prejudice and group-think of many members here.
     
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    Who said that? But like when you leave your windows down, your insurance wont cover your incompetence.
     
  20. Mac-7

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    Why give visas to russians if they cauae ao much trouble?

    Liberals and their open door policy are overrunning this country with foreigners on the streets and on the inrernet
     
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    You have the right to wonder about Merkel as much as I have the same right to wonder about Trump.
    And if you have reasonable arguments against Merkel, then you are welcome to tell them.
    Only so far you have only played in the matter Merkel a parrot and repeated the same BS from the right US media, or if it fits into your perspective, also from other sources ... but there was nothing that is based on facts or not within 2min could be refuted.

    And that I meddle in US topics ... like I said before ... two reasons:

    # 1 - Much has an impact on my country and is not a purely internal US business
    # 2 - You and other Americans have the habit of playing the smart guy in our internal affairs ... so just a little pred ro quo on my part with the difference that I call facts with it!

    Simple example of this?

    Trump imposes punitive tariffs on steel and aluminum against the EU to allegedly protect the US steel industry. This concerns my country directly ... so I have the right to comment and it is all, but not an internal US topic!
    And that's why I have the right to call Trump's total nonsense and the absurd lie ... the fact is:
    140,000 people work in the US steel industry ... the measure will create approximately 20,000 new jobs. Great!
    In the metalworking industry, there are some 6 million people in the US (depending on the source, different numbers), and this industry relies on a cheap raw material price for steel and aluminum to sell its final product competitively in the US and around the world. Can you handle the punitive tariffs? No!
    Due to the punitive tariffs the import is too expensive and the domestic steel industry can not deliver at an acceptable price! Result: Many of the approximately 6 million US jobs are at risk ... and after each mathermatic, 6 million are more than 140,000 + 20,000, eh?

    Did you know that / was aware of this fact? Are you interested in this simple truth at all?
    Or does it annoy you simply because I put these unpleasant facts on the table as evil Foreigner and only an US American is allowed to do it in your opinion ... who will surely then be labeled as evil lefty / liberal for that, eh?
     
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    I’m not interested in arguing with you about merket or anything else

    As for American jobs in metalwaorking I didnt know you cared

    In fact I dont expect any german to care

    Breaking the addiction to globalism will cause some pain

    But its better than ending up like you folks
     
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    High probability that the person is now deceased, not long after the leak. Seth Rich.
     
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    Still spreading the bullshit conspiracy theories, I see.
     
  25. LangleyMan

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    It's hard to know what hurt the most, but I agree with your guess the "deplorables" comment was a killer. I've been involved with political campaigns, albeit not at the highest level, but I've never had a candidate so stupid as to insult an opponent's supporters. I was gobsmacked that it was a planned statement. Who was dumb enough on her staff to suggest it, and why was Hillary dumb enough to say it? Imagine yourself as a candidate and someone putting a line in front of you like that to say--most people I know would edit it out on the spot.

    As for polls ... most people have a hard time identifying why they vote as they do. The likelihood is the emails were part of the mix, but election was so close the emails could have been the difference. My guess is she would have lost anyway, but I wouldn't bet the farm on it.
     

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