Guess which person is NOT allowed in Kroger's Grocery Store ! (pic)

She's a little girl. Little girls like ice cream. It is a grocery store after all. I doubt the man with the rifle was there buying ammunition.

 

Yes and the assumption is she didnt buy it there. Grocery store sell... food and drinks.. Why they dont want you to bring them in. One they want to sell you it and two they dont know if ( some things) are stolen if you are just walking around eating away.

 

How does a kid with a skate board cause a customer to be injured unless he uses it to run down the aisles?
How does a man without a shirt creates a health/sanitation problem unless he purposely stand over the meat counter until he sweats bullets?
How does a girl with an ice cream cone create a lawsuit liability, unless a pedophile approaches her?

However, if I see ANYONE (but a security guard in uniform) carrying a gun, or an assault weapon in the store. . .I'll be out of there without even purchasing a pack of gum! Too many "responsible" gun owners shoot themselves (or others) in the foot (or worse!). . .and, the fact that some crazy guy decides to carry a loaded gun (and if it is not loaded. . .what the use?) in a grocery store is OBVIOUSLY a sign that he is immature and NOT responsible gun owners, but a show off who dangerously overflow his "right to bear arms!"

 

Damn funny that there are plenty of women exercising their rights in the same manner but you try to make it into a guy thing... Educate yourself.

 

You know as well as I do that it does not help our case to keep and bear arms when people act like goobers. These attention seekers are actually doing more harm than good by enticing undue fear, which in turn causes lawmakers to introduce new legislation on gun rights.

People are free to do what they want, just don't get mad when your actions cause people to have fear. Remember fear allowed sheeple to accept the patriot act.

 

Open Carry is stupid and endangers the rest of us.

Not only that, but Open Carry of large assault weapons is intimidating and could make a reasonable person fear for their safety.

If I had a CCW and was carrying a handgun concealed, I would be watching anyone carrying an AR-15 at Home Depot VERY closely and be ready for them to start blasting.

 

a concealed handgun? no.

walking around Home Depot with an AR-15 or AK-47, makes me wonder if they are there to shop, scare people, or to commit a massacre at the check-out line.

 

I do know what the woman's intent was. It's obvious based on the equally obvious lack of a reason to be carrying a rifle like that in a department store.

You're right, I don't get to decide what's necessary for her if what you mean is that I should have a say in her choices. But what I can do is say that a particular action this woman took was necessary or not. Carrying a rifle in a department store is unnecessary. But please, list the reasons why it is and list the reasons why carrying a concealed pistol can't accomplish the same thing.

 

Does everyone have to explain to you their intent when they do something that doesn’t make sense to you? Is that the world we live in when exercising our constitutional rights; we have to explain our intent? You being uncomfortable with her carrying such a weapon is not justification to demand she explain herself to you.

And no you don’t get to decide what is necessary for anyone to do anything that is within the constraints of the law. It may not seem necessary to me that the person in front of me at the checkout bought 200 pounds of American cheese, but it’s really none of my business as long as that person isn’t harming anyone. People do a lot of things I think are unnecessary, but that’s not the other person’s problem; that’s my problem for allowing it to bother me. In the end, it’s none of my business. If this woman is within the law, it’s none of our business as to the necessity of it.

 

So ‘keep and bear arms’ doesn’t REALLY mean ‘keep and bear arms’? Are you going to decide when and where this constitutional right is exercised? I thought that was what we were fight for – THE RIGHT TO BEAR ARMS – PERIOD! How does your stance help our cause, by placing such limits on our rights? If this person was within the law, how is this harming our cause? It’s only the anti-gun fanatics, that aim to limit our 2A rights to our homes; and ever there they aren’t comfortable with it. They’re fear is THEIR fear. I do not make anyone fear anything just by peacefully and lawfully exercising my rights. They fear by choice. That’s on them, not me.

 

These are deadly weapons, but they aren't being paraded around for social status and image.



Think about it real hard. If you talk to most liberals (and there are quite a few), people who carry guns are "rednecks" or "stupid". Why would someone want to be labelled a "redneck" or "stupid". Hell, according to you, you think they are stupid. But yet these people still do it. It's not about image. It's also not about social status.

It is a social statement. It's not really about being a gun lover. It's about being pro 2nd-admendment. It's about saying that these are weapons, and ordinary people can handle them.

I still remember a time when just owning a firearm was taboo. Now people are smarter. Guns are not evil. They will not necessary jump up and shoot people. I remember when it was crazy just to own a firearm. Those people were called "crazy." Now the people who are open carrying at target/starbucks/kroger/etc. are the ones that are called "crazy" by liberals. But at the end of the day, these crazy are doing a great service to the public. They are showing the world guns are not necessary evil.

 

She drops the ice cream on the floor and creates a slip/fall hazard. She places the ice cream on an unseen place where it rots and attracts insects. Etc, etc.

That is, of course, your decision. I'll bet that guy, who is probably an enthusiast, is far more practiced with his gun than a rent-a-cop who carries a company weapon. I would talk to him before I made a retreat.

Actually, the organized open carry guys generally carry unloaded weapons unless they are planning to shoot. With an AR-15, as pictured, there is no way for an observer to tell if it's loaded or not. My guess is, it's unloaded. It's just for show.

 

how do we know these aren't psychopaths with severe anger issues?

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or they have extreme low self-esteem issues, are desperate for attention, and may be ready to commit a massacre.

 

Wow, nice assumptions. Speaking of psychopaths, it looks like someone has projection issues.

 

Pssssttt....Your paranoia is showing...

Possible, I suppose, but statistically very, very unlikely.

 

You are correct, and personally, even if I was afraid of someone walking in a store carrying a machine gun on their arms, I would not try to legislate their right to it away.

However, right or wrong, there will be a great number of people who WILL fear it, to the point of trying to get laws changed to either limit, or ban guns. And then it would affect you, because the law would be against you.

So maybe, we should try to find ways to alleviate their fears, even if it means showing a little discretion?

 

I think your response was pathetic; you obviously are not living in real time. Both you and I will have to agree to disagree on this thread.

 

First, no one was carrying a machine gun. That's just hyperbole.

Second, a great number of people fear many things. As an example, some people fear gays (that's what "homophobia" means, right?), does that make it ok to limit or ban gays? An irrational fear is an irrational fear, but everyone has the right to be irrationally afraid if they want to. They don't have the right to infringe on others' rights based on their irrational fears.

 

By the numbers...

Eighty-five Americans are shot dead every day. Of those 53 — or 62 percent — are suicides.

You’re more likely to die in an accident and much more likely to die in a hospital suffering from heart disease or cancer. But if you’re going to die by a firearm, it will probably be the result of suicide.

The person you are more likely to shoot is you. States with higher levels of household gun ownership had higher rates of firearm suicide and overall suicide.

 

It's pretty funny but the reason they bar outside food and drink is because they sell food and drink. Just in case no one posted that yet, think about it for a second

 

Oh ok, so no rebuttal worth reading? Got it.

 

You don't alleviate fears by hiding it. Hiding it only allows the fear to grow. More fear means more unjust laws -- more unfounded fears, more bans. It allows the other side to easily mislead people. I would rather have the first impression that the public get is of an average person carrying a AR15. I have seen what the first impression that the anti-2nd amendment people will try to give.. and it's full of lies. They ultimately want a ban. They want to scare people. It's harder to scare the public when they see regular folks handling firearms. That is what the opencarry folks are doing when they are open carrying in a store.



It's easy to see how a gun can be evil if you have never seen it be carry by anyone other than a stern cop or a criminal.

 

Yeah........that is one creepy looking girl. I am going to go with the guy with the gun. The girl kind of reminds me of

 

Sorry but that reminds me of the old joke about the man smoking inside a store and the owner says 'Hey you can't smoke in here!' and the customer replies "You sell them don't you? To which the owner replied "Yes, but I also sell laxatives!"

 

Your idea of what is an appropriate time and place is in question. You don't get to determine that context. Take the gun out of the picture, does that guy still scare you? If not, then it is a case of hoplophobia.