Gun Control needs to be instituted

I enjoy having fun. You and I cannot discuss anything serious anymore, at least not about this topic, but you seem to be an extreme kind of guy and extremes are easy to make fun of. I do enjoy that.

It is nothing personal, but you seem to fit into a "stereotypical" kind of person and those are always targets for memes as they fit into categories that are easy and fun to address.

As far as the Trump meme I used, it was not a political scenario. Trump is an extreme person and that is what I keyed on as far as your post reminding me of his trait (extremism to the max)

 

Sure. Facts are for extremists. LOL. Violating constitutionally protected rights is “fun”.

Keep digging!

What have I posted that is extreme or extremist? SMH.

 

They love their fallacious arguments.

 

Isn’t it interesting that authoritarians admit to enjoying stereotyping and making fun of people they can’t engage on an intellectual level?

It’s an often observed phenomenon, but the open admissions like we see here are a more rare treat. They open up very teachable moments!

Bring on the ad hominem attacks! I welcome them.

 

Nothing.

It eventually happens to all some can't seem to manage to bamboozle and dazzle with the usual moo moo poo poo.

 

hmmm

 

When dogma and talking points run into a wall off facts...

 

Thanks. I don’t see presentation of verifiable facts and intellectual arguments based on logic as ranting and raving. Thankfully I’m not the only one….

 

The big black scary guns that seem to be the target of gun banners are used less frequently than other less scary looking ones.

It’s not guns that are the problem, it’s OUR broken society that’s producing Americans that have been left behind in the most prosperous nation ever to exist.

We need to start investing in Americans again. Education, mental health help and screening, child care for working parents …

Banning a “type” of gun won’t save one life, there are too many to choose from. Helping hopeless Americans to become successful is the most economical solution, for all kinds of violence, available.

 

We're doing all that and the violent crime numbers aren't trending down. Got anymore solutions?

IMO, we are too soft on crime.

 

We aren’t doing enough to help our fellow Americans. We’ve cut back on help for higher education, we’ve closed scores of mental hospitals, we don’t have enough middle and high school counselors looking for and helping problem kids. We’ve cut back on core social programs at the same time we exported jobs and capitol.

it’s not guns, it’s our broken society that’s at the root of our violence.

 

What if I said, our fellow Americans and their enablers aren't doing enough to help America?

 

It might be true. Hard to say, that’s kinda obtuse.

 

Really? What's obtuse about this? Keyword, "armed'
173 House Democrats backed a law that reduces penalties for murders, carjackings, armed robberies, armed home invasions, and sexual assault offenses.

 

they know who votes for Democrats when they can vote.

 

He claimed to have put me on ignore for not agreeing with him.

 

That's why they push to allow inmates to vote.

 

Well, what else is an authoritarian who can”t deal emotionally or intellectually with objective reality to do on an anonymous forum?

 

Hey, 2A fundamentalist echo chamber, you seem to be the lone voice of reason, but I disagree with you. Reason can be reasoned with, hardened ideology is impervious to reason.

Violent crime is proportional to the poverty rate. 55% of African Americans are middle class and above, they are equally law abiding as whites. So its not the race that causes crime. Blacks have twice the poverty rate and tend to live in high density urban areas.

Children in poverty live under stress. Stress causes high cortisol levels which changes brain development. Some of the changes may be impulsiveness, poor emotional control, little foresight, low empathy, inability to concentrate, hyper-vigilance (hare triggered), addictions….sounds like a good citizen. These kids also enter school with a poor vocabulary and poor social skills besides the other traits, so they do poorly in school and many drop out and make babies to repeat the cycle.

What can be done? Relieve the stressors (to long to go into here) and quality preschool education.
But, here is where I disagree with you, England has twice the poverty rate and 1/5 the violent crime per capita because they don’t have easy access to guns. Give the above person described a gun and somebody will get hurt.

 

I didn't say I was against tighter controls on gun ownership; better background checks, minimum knowledge and competency, mental health checks ... . Owning or buying a gun should be conditional, but banning, selected, firearms will not save lives.

 

"it’s not guns, it’s our broken society that’s at the root of our violence." It is guns plus social pathologies equals more violence.

 

But short of banning ALL guns - which is blatantly unconstitutional, or A specific class of guns - banning guns in popular use IS unconstitutional, or a specific gun, unconstitutional if it is one in popular use, isn't going to save lives.

 

so what is your solution to a problem you apparently claim vexes you?

 

6% of the USA is black males. they cause over half the homicides. are you claiming that there aren't as many poor whites as there are all black males.

 

We can do many more things to keep guns and ammo out of the hands of bad actors.

Which I have shared many times on here.

No.