Gun control - Why punish the law abiding rather than the criminals?

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  1. rcfoolinca288

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    Not really since an amendment can be repealed completely or updated. If there is enough support the 2A can be watered down to a certain type of firearm you can own.
     
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    I dont think so. Texas is an open carry state and it wasnt immune to the mass shootings.
     
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    What number of good guys with guns were shot down at Miami (1), New Orleans (2), Charleston (1), etc., by the police? And the wild west open carry of Midland and Odessa did not stop the killer.
     
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    Well, this means nothing until quantified with objective evidence: "Not sure what the percentage would be, but there have been literally dozens of instances where an armed citizen has stopped a would-be mass shooter:"
     
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    rcfoolinca288 Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Damn why must you perpetrate fake news. You sure you even live in CA? $29 for background check on ammo?? LOL
     
  6. JakeStarkey

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    Historian Genovese and his equally leftist wife, also a historian, are magnificent researchers. Are we seeing Ddyad moving to the socialist world of historical revisionism?
     
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    Realistically that is not likely to happen for many years. It requires a two thirds vote of both houses of congress or two thirds of the states. Since most of the states are red and favor guns, to put it bluntly, it ain't going to happen.
     
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    Maybe, maybe not. In the meantime, many states have started instituting red flags laws. Will see what that does.
     
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    I am in favor of red flag laws.
     
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    They want to ban certain guns because the root causes of this violence are too difficult to look at.
     
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    Me 3.
     
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    Simply because those who are in support of such proposals are not actually informed of the details of what would be necessary to actually make said proposals work. The public is not informed about the technical issues, they are only made aware of the terms. They are sold slogans that sound good, but they are devoid of understanding of what said slogans entail. Were they made aware of the details of what would be necessary to make such proposals work, and what they would do, there would be no such levels of support for them.
     
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    Attempting flawed approaches in the desperate effort of doing something is worse than doing nothing at all, as it is a waste of finite resources that could be better utilized elsewhere for other purposes.
     
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    Is an AR-15 no different from a rocket launcher? Are the two comparable goods that can easily and freely be substituted for one another? Does the united states military keep stock of semi-automatic AR-15 rifles in the event they run short of rocket propelled grenades?
     
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    In theory. In practice, however, such is not going to happen, so there is no point in planning for such an event to come to pass.
     
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    Because the locations where the mass shootings were committed prohibited the legal carrying of firearms by private citizens, and announced such a fact by posting signs that stated such a fact.
     
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    For the same reason I oppose firearm registration. Cities like Chicago and DC along with California have used this sort of thing to enact a de facto gun ban. Sure you can technically own a firearm, but the criteria for ownership is a black box and even if you meet them, we're not going to issue a registration. You want this sort of thing, list clear, concise qualifications for ownership and we'll talk about whether or not they're acceptable and go from there.

    Because I like large magazines.
     
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    "new assault rifles" refers to the sales of new weapons. What does insurance do? Pays damages caused by that weapon. just like if your car is stolen and it runs into another car. your insurance pays for that other car. Not only are you insured, your car itself is.
     
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    uh....those are not firearms and they have no civilian application.
     
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    Talk all you want, but the scenario comes down to, the Senate falls from Republicans control and Moscow Mitch isn't able to run the show for the NRA. The NRA is falling apart so enjoy your future. You can whine forever about your gun rights for all I care.
     
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    The low information liberals and environmentalist are completely unaware where lead originally comes from.

    FYI:
    It a federal crime to use steel bullets while on federal lands, BLM, national forest, etc.
     
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    The lesson from these shootings is obvious. More Guns = Less Crime

    Mass shootings almost always occur in places where civilian guns are banned. States should have been encouraging more civilians to carry concealed guns after the first mass shooting.

    Open carry only makes you a priority target - like police officers.

    Gun Free Zone = Killing Zones.
     
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    The progressive model for governance is an obvious failure.
    Most of our corrupt leaders think no one has noticed.
     
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    Are you actually accusing Genovese and Rummel of historical revisionism?
     
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    You better read your historiography and reviews of Genovese's works and those of his wife's.

    You don't know who they are, do you?
     

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