Guns check government

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  1. Leffe

    Leffe New Member

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    In the world of these people, anoything and everything is possible and therefore probable. They cannot analyse risk in the same way as a normal balanced human being, so they see it as a binary option: much the same as "Get on an airplane" risk = crash, therefore never fly. They are incapable of weighing likeihood and severity and making an analogue scale decision based on this.
     
  2. exotix

    exotix New Member Past Donor

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    Have you seen Palins' multi-million dollar house ?
    You bought it for her ... and all you got for it are corpses littering the landscape because you actually believe *Don't Retreat, Reload* was going to the take the country back ...

    When will it dawn on you that the Founding Fathers never ever thought of themselves as the party of Hate & Death.
     
  3. Stagnant

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    France has considerably more civil unrest than the USA. Same with Britain and, yes, even Germany. The last time there was real "civil unrest", the response on the right was "get a job, you unwashed hippies". And honestly, if you think anyone who tries to storm the government, with or without assault rifles, is going to get far, then you're beyond help.
     
  4. Mac-7

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    Because you are not one of us Leffe.

    In spite of the poem your clone Diuretic posted in your defense you have no vote about whether I can keep my 2nd Amendment rights or not so nothing you wrote requires an answer from me.
     
  5. Leffe

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    The reason we have more civil unrest is that we act in an analogue manner, as we get more pissed off, we take action in an escalating manner. In the US, you seem to wait and wait and wait until it gets so bad that you have to overthrow the government.

    What seems odd to me is that the very people who advocate gun ownership for the purpose of overthrowing the government, are the same people who praise the Tea Party for obiding by the law, while condemn OWS for breaking the law (in a very minor way). Yet, they want to wait, wait, wait until their country is run by a tyrant, democracy has ended before taking bloody violent action. Why not act in a controlled manner now? Before thigs have go so far that you need a civil war?

    It makes no sense whatsoever!
     
  6. dujac

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    it's not the 18th century any more and king george is dead



    most of the population lives fairly comfortably and there's no tyranny

    i don't think those are the makings of any insurrection
     
  7. Mac-7

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    Throw out the 2nd Amendment first and then later can libs can destroy the 1st Amendment too.

    The Constitution means nothing to liberals who merely live for the moment.
     
  8. Leffe

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    Because you have no response to the points I make, you have no way to defend yourself in a logical manner and you know I'll tear your points apart...

    And you guys call the anti-gun people "sissies"... at least we are able to logically defend ourselves. Perhaps this is why we scare you so much.

    It's a very very simple question:

    You have accused Obama of being a socialist/communist/anti-American/wanting to destroy America. You guys do it day upon day, week upon week, month upon month, year upon year.

    Why have you not fullfilled your promise to overthrow this tyranny?

    What else is there left for Obama to do to your country, in order for you to fulfil your rationale for owning guns?


    Lets face facts, you don't believe the BS you've been spouting about Obama, you're just a partisan hack. And your don't have the balls to stand up and be counted anyway. Perhaps if there was a leader carismatic enough to lead, you might follow, but that leader is not you. You are a follower, a follower with a PC and internet connection who thinks he can say anything here without blowback, well guess what, intellect and logical thought is the blowback. I am the blowback and you have nothing in return.
     
  9. Mac-7

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    This is not your country.

    If you weren't such a blowhard you could be forgiven for your ignorance.

    And if I tried to explain it to you the logic would fly right over your head as it always does.

    But I will tell you once whether you are able to understand or not.

    Unlike Obama and foreigners like you white conservative Americans love this country and do not want to kill any of their fellow Americans.

    Not even liberals or Obama voters.

    Violence should always be a last resort when all else fails.
     
  10. Leffe

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    Answer the question!

    When is "enough", "enough"? Where is the line drawn from your personal view? At what point will you take up arms?

    It's really simple! You guys are defending gun ownership on the premise that you one day might have to overthrow an oppressive government. So the logical follow up question is, what does that mean? At what point does a government cross the line and become oppressive? You've thrown enough accusations around against Obama for long enough, it gave me the opinion that he had already crossed the line...

    It seems not.

    So please answer the question and stop dancing around.
     
  11. Gorn Captain

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    So let me get this straight....

    the only thing that keeps the Federal Government from becoming a tyranny is....the fear that you with your Glock and deer rifle will be able to destroy the military, which is armed with Apache gunships, Predator drones, F/A-18 Hornets, fuel-air bombs, and napalm???
     
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    They don't???

    Eric Rudolph

    Scott Roeder

    John Salvi

    Michael F. Griffin

    Paul Jennings Hill

    James Charles Kopp

    Michael Bray

    Shelley Shannon

    Francis Gerald Grady
     
  13. dujac

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    your hyperbolic remarks are ridiculous

    notice how i didn't say anything about throwing out the second amendment
     
  14. Mac-7

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    I answered you question.

    Which as a foreigner with no standing in this discussion was more than you are entitled to.

    But as I predicted it went right over your head.
     
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    You do realize that there are more civilians with these allegedly evil "assault weapons" than there are active members of the military.
     
  16. Mac-7

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    There are at least 50 million conservative white Americans and you offer nine names some?

    Get back to us when you have a significant number.
     
  17. dujac

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    not directly



    the number is sufficient to show that you don't know what you're talking about
     
  18. Mac-7

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    Nine people?

    You must be kidding.
     
  19. Leffe

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    You didn't Mac, you avoided it, thinking that you could dance around, throw in a couple of insults and get away with it. You have not.

    When is enough, enough? At what point will you take up arms?
     
  20. Leffe

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    Take note everyone, the "white" part is apparently important!
     
  21. dujac

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    you said conservative americans do not want to kill any of their fellow americans

    he showed you that you're wrong, again
     
  22. Gorn Captain

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    One of them....BLEW UP AN OLYMPICS!

    BTW, I'm just listing the "pro-lifers"...haven't even gotten around to the guys who loath the Federal Government. You can ask the folks in Oklahoma City about that fun bunch.
     
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    I'm sure he can TRY to claim Eric Rudolph was a "liberal"...if he really wants to get embarassed.
     
  24. Mac-7

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    Nine out of fifty million is an insignificant number.

    Even your foreign twin Leffe has argued that white conservative Americans are not rising up violently against the government.
     
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    Why Is an Arkansas City Deploying Police With AR-15s to Demand Citizens Show I.D. on the Streets?

    According to the Paragould Daily Press, Mayor Mike Gaskill and Police Chief Todd Stovall said in a town hall meeting last week that the initiative to battle street crime would begin in 2013:

    “[Police are] going to be in SWAT gear and have AR-15s around their neck,” Stovall said. “If you’re out walking, we’re going to stop you, ask why you’re out walking, check for your ID.”

    Stovall said while some people may be offended by the actions of his department, they should not be.

    “We’re going to do it to everybody,” he said. “Criminals don’t like being talked to.”

    [...]

    “They may not be doing anything but walking their dog,” he said. “But they’re going to have to prove it.”

    http://www.theblaze.com/stories/why...-15s-demand-citizens-show-i-d-on-the-streets/

    Has it already begun? This is what the beginning of tyranny looks like if its not stopped. If every city did this, then I would say its time to take up arms.
     

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