Guns & Stand Your Ground victory. Got a problem with that? video included.

If someone knocked me down like that and I felt I might suffer a follow up attack or might lose consciousness, I'd do the same thing.

The only way to stop a follow up attack is to ensure the person who already attacked you once is incapable of doing so again.

 

LoL.

Funny.

You're complaining very loudly about what you just threatened me with.

What's even funnier, is that you basically threatened to shoot someone who got into a verbal argument with your imaginary girlfriend.

This proves my point, the left is extremely violent, and just wants to make sure we can't defend ourselves from their violence.

Transparent, that's what you are.

 

Once you decide your life is in danger and you need to use your firearm, it doesn't matter if the guy who just tried to kill you starts proposing marriage.

 

and many are in the ground for "brandishing" when there is a threat within 7 yards.

 

Now you have the guy who was shot as 'killing' the shooter? My lord....no wonder you carry a gun.

 

Then there's this....

Stand your Ground has nothing to do with this - in a state with a duty to retreat, this is also a legal shoot as the shooter was knocked to the ground and would have to expose himself to a greater chance of harm when getting - therefore he could not safely retreat.

 

The video speaks for itself. BTW, I'm pretty sure that the parking space Nazi was parked illegally himself.

 

I don't care about any of that, I wanted to see a link establishing the shooter as having prior problems about parking...

 

So, no - you cannot show his fear was unreasonable. Thank you.

You say this as if it matters.[/QUOTE]

 

People who want to use the threat of violence against others are the only people upset by this event.

Don't try and play the knock out game on people, and we won't subject you to the ambient temperature challenge.

 

Not saying that he didn't have altercations, I'm not finding the links to them. Help me out?

 

It's in the link you quoted. Pulled a gun in a road rage incident and threatened to kill another person parked in that space.

 

At the very bottom of the article:
It wasn’t the first time he saw Drejka(the shooter) in a fight with another customer. A couple of months back, Rick Kelly stopped by the store, parking his tanker truck in the same handicap spot.

The details to Thursday’s incident are similar: Drejka walking around the truck checking for decals, then confronting Kelly, 31, about why he parked there. The fight escalated, and Drejka threatened to shoot him, Kelly said.

"It’s a repeat. It happened to me the first time. The second time it’s happening, someone’s life got taken," Kelly said. "He provoked that."
https://www.tampabay.com/news/publi...rgument-over-handicap-parking-space_170174041

 

Most definitely...

 

If the father doesn't commit assault, he doesn't die. That simple.

 

you're assuming being violently blindsided and knocked on your ass never warrants a lethal response.

The only people who know for sure how they'll react in a lethal force situation are people who have already experienced one. 'virgin' cops and soldiers don't even know how they'll react.

 

I agree that the shove was completely uncivilized and uncalled for. But he should have been arrested for assault, not shot dead. And remember that it was not the black guy who went out of his own way, stuck his nose in the the shooters business and assaulted him. It was the shooter who stuck his nose in the black guys business, verbally assailing his girlfriend as she waited with their children for him in the car. The white shooter went there looking for trouble. And he brought a gun with him. Then he started verbally harassing the woman in the car. Out comes boyfriend, who sees the ruckus, and promptly shoves the aggressor to the ground. That's as far as he took it. He made his point. The white guy shot him because the white guy is a murderer and a bully. And by God he was gonna have his way. I'd lock him up. For how long would depend on his confession.

 

You say as an observer, after repeatedly watching a video w/o sound.
Surely you agree it is entirely possible that information you aren't privy to could change your mind on this.

 

Such would apply only if charges are actually pursued. But the individual in question has not been charged with anything, so presently there are no charges to pursue.

 

Speculation of course!

 

Irrelevant.

A minor head wound is still more than enough to kill.

Which is both assault and battery under the established laws of the state of Florida.

This is assumption, not a standard rule. Simply because an aggressive individual is not launching a constant, continuous stream of violence, does not mean they have chosen to stop the engagement and go no further on the matter. Such is not how the real world works.

 

That could change the situation if he was threatening to shoot others before this incident.

 

Then do not, under any circumstances, state such further.

Assault and battery, especially if the one being assaulted qualifies as a senior citizen, is not "the slightest excuse" but a legitimate reason to be in fear, and motivated to use deadly force. Under the laws of the state of Florida, the assault actually qualifies as the offense of felony battery and aggravated assault.

 

You have me confused with someone who is interested in assault. I’m not interested in assaulting OR shooting anyone

 

I feel like if you are the instigator the stand your ground defense lacks strength. The guy who was parked in the handicapped spot could have thought the other guy was trying to rob or who knows what with his wife and son and HE was standing his ground.