Guns & Stand Your Ground victory. Got a problem with that? video included.

Discussion in 'Gun Control' started by Moi621, Jul 20, 2018.

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Do YOU support this Stand Your Ground example of lethal gun defense?

  1. Yes

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  2. No

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  1. Xenamnes

    Xenamnes Banned

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    Then perhaps those living in the state of Florida should be aware of this fact, and conduct themselves appropriately. Exercise critical thinking skills before exercising physical force.
     
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    History of confronting people. Armed with a gun. Seems cut and dry to me. But I guess we'll just have to agree to disagree.
     
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    I made the same point some time ago.
    They don't understand this, and have no interest in doing so.
     
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  4. Xman379

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    If someone blindsided me with a shove to the ground, my immediate assumption would be that the person intends to stomp me, possibly to death.

    If armed, I would shoot the person.
     
  5. ECA

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    True....there is probably an inordinate amount of chicken ***** who live there so chances are you'll get shot if you look at someone. with a 'mean' face.
     
  6. Xman379

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    If he had actually PHYSICALLY ASSAULTED someone, then it would be cut and dry.
     
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  8. Moi621

    Moi621 Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Good for Drejka, :applause: he has a worthy cause.

    I miss the 20th Century when common people were less likely
    to justify their transgressions, like parking in a disabled parking space.
    Maybe we could cite them and require "Polite School" in :flagcanada:

    Moi :oldman:


    :nana: :flagcanada:
     
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    Drejka in my opinion is the problem here.
     
  10. Xman379

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    Well then, just as in the case of the Parkland shooting, Florida law enforcement once again failed it's citizens by not taking appropriate action.

    Or perhaps law enforcement wasn't moved to act, because Kelly was, by his own admission, ILLEGALLY parked in a handicap spot.

    There are citizens who take it upon themselves to hold lawbreakers accountable. For example, I remember a guy who used to go around videotaping prostitutes and their clients.

    He has a YouTube channel titled "videovigilanteokc" (https://www.youtube.com/user/videovigilanteokc)


    I wonder if you'd say the "videovigilanteokc" was looking for a fight.

    https://www.youtube.com/user/videovigilanteokc
     
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    My assumption also. Shoot first, make your analysis later.
     
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    You don't know enough to know what you dont know.
     
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    It's what you don't know that hurts you -- like you shove a guy down hard and Hey Joe, he's got a gun and is quick on the draw.
     
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    Exactly. You never know if you’re encountering a chicken **** or not. Best to not shove someone that way you can avoid all of the chicken *****
     
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    What video are you watching? He's about 5 feet away from him and waling backwards. "
     
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    If someone is out, armed, confronting and threatening people, that's considered when going to trial. This guy was itching for this.
     
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    No one ever decided to press charges, therefore it is a non-issue.

    As are millions of other individuals in the united states every single day.

    Only because of a stubborn unwillingness to address the pertinent, relevant facts of the matter.
     
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    Then those who were threatened had not only a civil, but also moral responsibility to press charges. They failed to do such.
     
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    Which means nothing from a legal standpoint. Once one initiates felony battery, they are not legally entitled to calling the matter off, or trying to take it back, or calling for a time out, simply because they realized they were not in control of the situation. The moment the aggressor used violence for the purpose of violating the rights of another, he surrendered his own rights in the matter.
     
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    My opinion is this was a justified shoot. I carry ccw on a daily basis. Have had extensive training at TDI in Ohio and have taken 2 Combat focus courses with Rob Pincus. That focuses on the fight or flight response. The fight or flight response in humans, or any animal, is instinctual. It’s literally millions of years of evolution in the making. When confronted in such a way as this gentleman, his fight or flight response was triggered. Having just been violently assaulted and thrown to the ground, he was genuinely in fear for his life.

    That makes this a justified self defense shooting.
     
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    Again and again, ECA and and Aphontic blame the rape victim. The shooter has every right to confront someone parking illegally. He was NOT violent, was not in a threatening pose. The boyfriend clearly was the aggressor without provocation. Once on the ground, the man had no retreat options.

    So tell me "blame the rape victims" here, why do you excuse and unprovoked attack by my "so called" bad asss that ended up dead? Probably because you are professional victims?
     
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    Certainly not in Florida. Much less if the guy who is shot is black. In other states it means you're retreating. And therefore that the other guy's life is not in danger.

    Don't let me stop you. Looks like you're having so much fun making up your own laws.... And your own video....
     
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    Oh my, another racial position. Color doesn't matter.
     
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    Yes.
     
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