Half of Americans say Trump is victim of a 'witch hunt' as trust in Mueller erodes

Playing more games as I did not state that the hacking attack that started within hours of Trump asking for help resulted in any leaks just that there was a large hacking attacks within hours of him asking for help in getting more emails.

 

Only if I was paid large sums of Russian Rubles or bit coins for that matter to aid the Russian campaign to keep their agent in the white house.

 

Also from Yahoo:

Experts push back on Trump-touted poll that shows 50% of Americans calling Mueller probe a 'witch hunt'

... multiple polling experts took exception to the structure of the question.

"I'm sorry to say this question violates three basic principles of questionnaire design," said Gary Langer, president of Langer Research Associates, which polls for ABC News and others.

Langer said in an email to CNBC that the question is "triple-barreled" because it asks three things within a single question: whether the probe is a witch hunt; whether Trump has been subjected to more investigations than other presidents; and whether those probes have been lodged because of politics.

"Answers to each can differ," Langer said.

He added that asking respondents if they agree — without asking if they disagree — makes the question "unbalanced." And agree-disagree questions in general are "fundamentally biasing, because they lack the alternative proposition," Langer said.

"In sum, it is a very good idea, in survey questions, to ask one thing at a time, and to do so in a balanced and neutral way," Langer said.

Other pollsters agreed.

... https://sg.finance.yahoo.com/news/experts-push-back-trump-touted-214202864.html​

 

There has been no left wing coup. Anyone who suggests that truly has cognitive and emotional deficiencies. We all heard Trump from the podium call on the Russians for help.

The House committees could not make criminal referrals because there was no criminal doing.

However, I believe the wackiness will continue because certain of the right have nothing else.

 

Lol at "experts" pushing back on poll results they don't like.

 

That's the response I would expect from a troll.

 

IDk...seems like a "fishy" claim to me. You wouldn't have a link for that NSA report would ya?

A few things about your claim do not make sense:

1. Why would the NSA be monitoring the DNC servers for Russian hacks since the DNC didn't even allow them access to the server to investigate the first hacks?
2. Why would the hackers attempt to hack the DNC servers a 2nd time to look for HC's 30k emails when they had just hacked it a month before?
3. Why would they think that the 30k email would be on the DNC servers in the first place? I can not see a scenerio where HC would tell the DNC "here...I just erased these emails from my personal server....hold on to them for me".

I really do dislike Trump, but I dislike the trend of those attempting to create a negative narrative of Trump over the meaning of things he says when taken out of context even more.

Facts:

1. Just days before that rally, the Russian hacking of DNC servers was all over the news.
2. Trump made the missing 30k email a talking point of his campaign against HC.

It is pretty obvious to me that it was nothing more than political rhetoric when looking at what was on the news at the time. I never saw it as "Help me win the election, Russia".....I saw it more as "hey....if you hackers can hack the DNC servers maybe you can find HC's emails on the internet and the media will pay to see those since nobody can seem to find them"......but then I guess some people will read things as they want to fit their own narrative.

 

ABC works for the DNC and thus Langer is a bought and paid for and biased source.

 

footnote you do not need to be inside a server to know if it is under attack or not just monitor the traffic to the servers as most of the attacks modes are not encrypted.

 

So, it wasn't the DNC server like you said....and there was nothing to indicate this was in response to Trump's comment.....and it happened the same day, either before or possibly after his comment.

Maybe it was in response to Trump....maybe not. However, there is little doubt (except to the most partisan) that Trump's comment was nothing more than political rhetoric (no matter how unnerving) and was not an actual request for help.

 

Soon...

 

No there is no connected at all that Hillary servers came under heavy attacks by the Russians less the 24 hours after Trump ask the Russians to get her email????

An it made a large difference that it was Hillary email servers and not the Dem servers that came under Russians attack within hours after Trump ask for the attack.

I hear that the Russians have the Brooklyn bridge for sell with Trump as their agent that you might wish to buy.

 

Your own source only says it was the same day. You do not know if it was before or after the rally. Your own source even states that there is nothing to indict this was in response to Trump....or even if they watched the rally. Not even sure if the rally was even televised or available in Russia. Correlation does not imply causation.

I'm not really expecting you to see logic. I'm sure that you will bite on every "squirrel" that those that are anti-Trump will throw at you.

 

Sure there is no connection,,,,,,,,,,sometimes I wonder how anyone can write such nonsense along with such silliness as Russia intelligence does not or can not monitor US campaign speeches in real time in this internet age.

In any case, it would seems that both states and the federal government is moving in on Trump criminal enterprises.

Not since Burr had two states murder warrants out for him from New York and New Jersey while he was vic president had this been as interesting as Trump will made our lives where a sitting president is likely going to be under states criminal indictments.

 

That pretty well sums up the situation.

 

On the night Trump got elected, I watched about a half dozen major news journalist.....journalist that are suppose to hold no bias.....cry on TV. Since then, I have seen many of these same people, and many more people just like them, take everything he says very literally and then tell the public how they should be feeling and what they should be thinking. I'm sorry, but I'm not that naive and gullible.

I know exactly who/what Trump is.....a egotistical and narcissistic bully that is prone to braggart exaggerations and hyperbole. I have know long before he started his campaign that he can not be taken literally....on anything. Like his comment that he could shoot someone and get away with it. Only a fool would believe he was serious. It is his way of bragging on how popular he is. Nobody in their right mind would serious believe he was contemplating of actually shooting someone or that he would get away with it.

While I dislike him as President, I do like some of the things he has accomplished...or would like to accomplish. However, when I see him comment on something and recognize it as the hyperbole that it is, at the moment that I watched him say it, and then see how his words are spun as a literal meaning to fit a negative narrative.....and am then told how I should feel about it....I know that something is seriously wrong with this picture. Sorry, I am not a sheep that conforms to how others want me to think or to believe the crap they are selling.

One thing he has accomplish is to expose the hypocrisy and malice of many people. People who should have no bias and people that are in a position of power that have proven they are more interested in their political party and/or personal gain than they are for the good of this country.

Link?

I will believe it when I see it. If he is legitimately found guilty of crimes, then I will accept it and cheer the system. However, it is getting very hard to distinguish those accusations that have merit from those accusations that are for politically motivated.

 

Very sensible take. as for the witch hunt, it's undeniable.

The FBI began openly snooping on Donald John Trump when it was clear he had won the Republican presidential nomination.

The FBI did this while whitewashing Hillary for her selling out national security. The FBI allowed the destruction of evidence, and gave immunity to witnesses so they would not have to testify against her.

The fake dossier fooled the FISA court and enabled their unconstitutional spying, lies built on lies by liars.

 

Which candidates do you think the FBI will go after this coming election?

 

and what is your point? Why would congress refer a potential criminal action that was already being investigated by the FBI and the DOJ including undercover agents and everything?

 

The Mueller probe seems to be coming full circle...https://www.foxnews.com/politics/ob...ssible-prosecution-in-mueller-initiated-probe

"Former Obama White House Counsel and Clinton-linked attorney Greg Craig may soon be charged by the Justice Department for engaging in illegal unregistered overseas lobbying, in a case initially probed by Special Counsel Robert Mueller -- a development that would make him the first Democrat to face prosecution amid the long-running Russia investigation."

 

It was a joke, it was his typical sarasim. You do realize which emails to which he was referring? The ones on the server the FBI was in procession of and not even on line. He was sarcastically suggesting they could help the FBI recover what was supposed to be in the procession of the American People in our archives for public access.

 

From what I can tell they have a ton of memes, bombastic accusations, denying, and name calling.

 

Yet not one indictment or plea directly tied to the sole thing Mueller was legally authorized to investigate.

 

The emails he was speaking of were not the campaign or DNC emails. They were on her private server where she had stored the official emails that were the property on the taxpayers and she had attempted to destroy and the FBI was trying to recover and had just been reported in the news. The server wasn't even online to be able to be hacked. He was being sarcastic.
Doesn that all really go over your head?

 

And they were hacking before and during and after and even now trying to hack and the fact is they got into the DNC emails through a phising operation not a hack. They began their efforts to get into both campaigns in March and succeeded with the DNC within days.

"WASHINGTON (AP) — It was just before noon in Moscow on March 10, 2016, when the first volley of malicious messages hit the Hillary Clinton campaign.

The first 29 phishing emails were almost all misfires. Addressed to people who worked for Clinton during her first presidential run, the messages bounced back untouched.

Except one.

Within nine days, some of the campaign’s most consequential secrets would be in the hackers’ hands, part of a massive operation aimed at vacuuming up millions of messages from thousands of inboxes across the world."
https://www.apnews.com/dea73efc01594839957c3c9a6c962b8a

Trump's jab at Hillary didn occur until July. So you don't have your dates right nor which emails he was joking about.