Hamas accepts Egypt deal. Netanyahu says NO.

So far, I've seen no analyst suggesting that Israel is making progress against the Hamas brigades defending Gaza.

They are still running operations against the IDF in areas that have been declared to have been cleared.

Netanyahu is totally screwed if he accepts a ceasefire that would imply an end to the slaughter of Palestinians, because of the fragility of his government and the fact that members like Smotrich demand genocide. He and others can collapse the coalition government of Netanyahu.

Once out, the courts will be free to try him for his domestic "activities".

I think this is perhaps the most serious problem with this war.

Israeli leadership can not stop. And, they are not winning any of their military objectives.

 

I don't claim to understand Iran at all. They are a mighty ME force, and I do believe they want regional influence that we and Israel work to deny. If anything, Iran is more concerned about those not interested in such a radical religious government.

Hamas does have its own weapons factory. They use explosives from dud bombs and stuff captured. They designed a special RPG round capable of penetrating Israel's tanks and armored personnel carriers - a round that has a penetrator and an explosive charge that enters the hole. Hamas posts vids of using that against the IDF. Fighters in tunnels are advised when a tank is near them, so they can pop up and blow it up - too close for their active defense system. IDF tanks travel without ground troops, so there isn't much to worry about.

 

People were told to evacuate. Think before you post. Anyone who stays is considered a terrorist. The goal is peace, so kill the terrorists. Duh!

 

Hamas says a lot of things. Anyone who believes a terrorist is a fool.

 

Think!

Not all those in Rafah can evacuate.

The defenders of Gaza can go anywhere they want. And, the IDF can't stop them.

This war is about genocide - as demanded by Smotrich and the rest of the Netanyahu cabal they call a government.

After Rafah, where do you think the IDF will go next?

 

The IDF are terrorists - slaughtering civilians to try to affect political decisions.

You will notice that I haven't quoted Hamas. I HAVE cited vids that show the IDF in a seriously pathetic light,

 

Wherever terrorists are hiding.

 

Israel is a democracy. What's Iran?

 

Hamas was also democratically elected. Fatah in Gaza had long been shown to be seriously corrupt.

The war is between Israel and Gaza.

 

If you mean the defensive forces of Gaza, that are winning against the IDF.

As Smotrich and others high in the Israeli government, their stated objective is genocide.

Smotrich doesn't talk about any other objective. Plus, he has the power to bring down the Netanyahu government coalition.

 

That'll be long forgotten.

The bigger question is, when this is all over whether whatever vestiges of Hamas or a new power will do a little rape and shoot raid again into Israel. I wonder if the lesson has been learned?

 

What??? This is never going to be forgotten. This has been such a significant global story that it is going to be discussed as much as events like the cold war. This has been going on for over 70 years, reaching an intensity that no one will forget.

We will see if Israel has learned its lesson if it starts to treat Palestinians as humans, giving them equal rights, rebuilding what they have destroyed, recognizing them as a sovereign nation, and returning their stolen lands.

 

It's my strong opinion that only terrorist sympathizers would believe Hamas is finished and will not carry out their promises made during this war. It's still their official charter. It's what they do. Gaza will still.be governed by a terrorist group whose primary goal is to kill Jews. Israel will stop at nothing short of weeding out Hamas in every corner of the Gaza. They will not let them retreat to a city and then leave them there and let them get away with what they have done.

 

What type of government is Iran?

 

If genocide was the objective of Israel, this would have been over a long time ago and Israel wouldn't have provided a way out for refugees. That post is idiotic.

 

One of many incursions. It'll blend into the rest. As you said, 70 years.

Your second paragraph is a pipe dream. When those angry, discordinated tribal Arabs accept Israel not only as a country but one that they can learn from and profit from, nothing goes forward. But Allah is greatest of course!!

 

Yes - Israel's 20 years war on Gaza will be over. And, Gaza will finally be free.

But, I don't believe for a minute that Israel will take that lesson.

They are still carrying out similar operations against West Bank, where Palestinians have worked hard for a negotiated resolution and where the USA has provided the weapons and political cover to protect the IDF as they bulldoze the homes of Palestinians and their agriculture.

The thing is, terrorism isn't the issue. And, it hasn't BEEN the issue.

 

Israel is slaughtering civilians - aid workers, doctors, nurses, ambulances, emergency responders, etc. And, they are starving the population to death.

That is EXACTLY what Israel wants, as clearly stated by Smotrich and others who are part of Netanyahu's coalition government.

These folks don't call for eliminating Hamas - they literally call for genocide in exactly that term.

They call for the same thing in West Bank, where President Abbas has worked WITH the IDF for nonviolence and has dedicated his life to finding a negotiated solution - looking to America, looking to the UN, looking to UK, looking for a platform for resolution.

And, he's done that WHILE Israel bulldozes the homes of his people.



Israel's complain IS NOT TERRORISM. There problem is that there are still Palestinians who aren't DEAD in the region of the ME that they believe God gave them.

 

This topic has nothing to do with Iran.

 

It is genocide whether or not some people escape death and run away.

Israel is not succeeding vs the defense of Gaza.

But, they sure the heck are slaughtering tens of thousands of Palestinian citizens of all ages in their remorseless killing spree.

That part is recognized the world over, turning Israel into a pariah.

 

Hamas is funded by Iran and the attack on October 7th was drawn up by an Iranian General. You're uninformed.

 

The Palestinians can stop the war right now. Surrender.

 

That doesn't make it about Iran.

The war is between Israel and Gaza.

 

LOL.

They they are in the position of West Bank - only worse.

Palestine isn't going to give up their country for NOTHING.

 

Again, Hamas is using civilians as shields. That's an issue of Hamas. No nation has ever gone to such lengths to protect civilian life in war. There would be far fewer civilian casualties if Hamas wasn't doing what they're doing.

And there's been plenty of aid sent to Gaza so nobody has to starve, but Hamas is hoarding for their terrorist soldiers. Again, I notice you're blaming Israel for people going hungry rather than the terrorists keeping food away from the people. This is a theme where you look at a symptom, ignore the cause, and then knee-jerk blame Israel.