Hamas fires rockets at Israel, Israel responds to Jihad terrorism.

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  1. DonGlock26

    DonGlock26 New Member Past Donor

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    So, are you implying that a blockade justifies the rocket attacks?

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  2. Bishadi

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    that is exactly like me taking your home and killing your father and not expecting you to do anything
     
  3. Bishadi

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    sure i am.

    Born, raised and telling the bigots to GFT from right here.

    A real American is honest. The punks are too weak to sustain such integrity.
     
  4. DutchClogCyborg

    DutchClogCyborg New Member

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    Israel and other nations have the fullest right to defend itself from ever growing Islamic Jihad to conquer and etnicly cleanse infidel land.
     
  5. Bishadi

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    the facts:

    i am supporting israel unwillingly with my taxes.

    i aint supporting palestine except by voicing that the bigots of israel are oppressing human beings





    how is it that people can claim that to voice that israel is bigotted is supporting terror?
     
  6. creation

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    Lets be clear. Israel has in general the right to defend its borders. However, those borders are not Gazan airspace or sea space, or the space between gaza and egypt.

    And as such a blockade, being an act of war, necessitates a response just as any other nation or people or individual would.

    Now if youre now going to explain to me that somehow Gazans or Hamas dont count as being allowed to defend themselves or fly in their own airspace or sail their own sea then in that sense Hamas can only be wrong and israel only right. But as yet theres little to suggest that gazans ever conceded any of this blockaded territory to anyone or that they ever started any war of aggression against israelis.
     
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    The continuing 'rocket attacks' by Hamas are worse than useless. The rockets in question are homemade rather than proper military munitions and their accuracy is much worse than their range, which is not very good. They are nothing like the Hezbollah rocket attacks from Lebanon which use real rockets and are comparatively dangerous: you have to be close and/or very unlucky to be in danger from a Hamas rocket.

    The only thing the Hamas rockets are good for is accidentally killing an Israeli citizen or two and generally annoying the Israeli government and the IDF, which reacts at intervals with air strikes or real rocket attacks or military incursions or suspensions of power or water or a stiffer blockade or whatever. Apparently the Hamas attacks are necessary to Hamas in that they 'prove' Israel's enmity to the citizens of Gaza and thus justify their retention of power in Gaza. The fact that Gazans needlessly suffer doesn't seem to enter into Hamas' calculations.
     
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    Hmmm. I think blockading and invading Gaza proves their enmity. The Gazans need little more proof.
     
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    Let's look at the naivete of this post. While it is possible he is being honest and merely wants peace between the two people I see a troubling trend here. He really thinks that Israel can just allow Gaza unrestricted trade and the so-called "Palestinians" will behave and not rearm. It's all B/S.

    Problem: Nothing in "Palestinian" history has shown that they can be trusted. In fact the complete opposite is true. In other words peace is found only when the Gazans are so restricted that the practically have to get a permission slip from the Israelis just to go to their own bathroom.

    It is the people of Gaza who have insisted upon this blockade though their own ignorance and the election of Hamas. And in fact the blockade is in their own best interests.

    When finally disarmed the Gazans will receive few if any retaliatory strikes from the Israelis. These acts are like an intervention used on chronic drinkers or drug abusers.

    When a group of people like those from Gaza show suicidal tendencies? One needs to intervene severely. At times violence is called for. The Occupied territories and especially Gaza are exactly those kind of self destructive types. With their self created ghettos and mindless breeding sprees.
     
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    I think that they are good for giving people a reason to point fingers at Hamas in order to justify Israeli faults. Hamas would do much better if it focused on non-violent resistance.
     
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    The troubling with identifying my naivety here is the lack of accurate historical premis used. For example;

    "Nothing in "Palestinian" history has shown that they can be trusted." Statements like these relate in no sense to the historical record. The reality is that palestinians can be trusted at least as much as the Israelis.

    As for 'what Israel can do', obviously Israel can do whatever it likes. For example Israel can simply make a deal that Hamas restricts all rocketing and israel ends the blockade - Hamas has already proven it can keep to agreements.

    As for asking Palestinians not to rearm, well thats fair enough - as long as israel makes the same promise (this worked between the USSR and the USA in nuke talks so its definitely feasible).

    Nonsense like this simply ignores the record to make bland pejorative statements. What can I possibly respond to in this?

    Again nonsense. You have no crystal ball nor any accurate history to back this up.

    One needs to intervene? Where do you get this crap from? Some journal of international health?

    How does an enemy perform a 'medical intervention'??

    Phrases like 'Self created ghettos' and 'mindless breeding sprees'' regarding millions of people example the level of intellect at play here. Go play with your toys.
     
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    Creation's fantasy world...

    Over SIX THOUSAND ROCKET ATTACKS since the year 2000.

    You can look it up. OK I will help: There's a link at Wiki. That is unless Creation wants to join Moon's conspiracy fringe cheer leading section and declare Wikipedia part of a "Jewish plot to control media and information..."

    As for my other remarks? I will deal only with one as Creation refuses to demonstrate that he even understands arithmetic.

    Check out the population of Gaza 1948: 40,000 A-rabs.

    2011??? 1.5 MILLION.

    DO THE MATH! Only conclusion is this: MINDLESS BREEDING SPREE causing ghettos.

    The alcoholic always blames his wife. The so-called "Palestinians" always blame the Israelis. The misguided Liberals (not all are misguided and I generally support their other ideas) back up the Palestinian's "right" to blame others for their own problems.

    So screw the Palestinians. MAKE THEM GET A PERMISSION SLIP JUST TO GO TO THEIR OWN BATHROOM.


    Like Republicans we call them "S-L-O-W L-E-A-R-N-E-R-S..."
     
  13. The Judge

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    It is better to recognize and accept the nation of Palestine than to hate Semites as a result of one's own racism.
     
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    For silly bigots only a few pointed comments are required;

    6000 rockets? Ooooh thats bad. Never mind how much more went the other way.

    But please, do tell us about Gaza's population growth. Indeed tell us what other regions beat it in birth rates? Hmmm could they be other war torn areas? Sierra leone? Afghanistan? Angloa?

    Dont let your little head be troubled by these things, just keep explaining to us how these people are sub human and 'mind less' in various ways. Perhaps youll explain to us also how mind less you great grand parents were when they in their european poverty also had a high birth rate - but lemme guess, thats different because thats you and yours (who are noble and intelligent etc etc) and not they (who are uncultured brutes etc etc).

    The curious thing is you would accuse others of being slow of learning.
     
  15. moon

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    Would you cared to instruct us in Hamas claims for responsibility for these rockette attacks, please, in particular the ' Hamas ' rockettes you are attempting to ascribe, above.
    Perhaps you could then enlighten us as to what precipitates retaliatory attacks by Palestinians and how you would prevent the aggressors from perpetuating them.
     
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    Rockets launched from Gaza and the Occupied territories serve no useful military purpose EXCEPT...

    Except if you want to guarantee an overwhelming counter attack from israel. Which in truth is what Hamas wants. So you see everyone in "Palestine" is expendable. Not in the eyes of the Jews but in the very leaders of so-called "Palestine".


    Now on the other hand a machine gun in the hands of an Israeli soldier is very useful tool. Excellent way to cut a rocket launching so-called "Palestinian" idiot in half.
     
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    I disagree that the murder of hated Semites is an act of great honor. It is more logical to recognize and accept the nations of Palestine and Israel instead.
     
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    Well ? Is you gonna or is you ain't ?
     
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    The saying goes like this:

    "Is you is or is you ain't?"
     
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    If language wasn't flexible we'd all still be saying ' Ug ' to each other. Even non-Republicans.
     
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    Do you know the difference between Democrats and Republicans?
     
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    Enlighten me.
     
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    What does GFT mean?
     
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    The ability to read and understand a ballot.
     
  25. DutchClogCyborg

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    You disagree but Islam does not, it clearly tells the faithfull to kill those who do not embrace Islam.

    Tough luck punk ^^
     

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