Healthcare--a right or not?

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  1. WAN

    WAN Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    So if I question why I have to pay for someone's food, that means I should leave my country?

    Ok.
     
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    Your health is your RESPONSIBILITY. Right has nothing to do with it.
     
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    But it should
     
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    I wish that would actually happen so you could see what it really means.
     
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    I know exactly what it means.
     
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    It means making slaves of healthcare providers. Unless you know that, you don't know what it means.
     
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    Well if you have any ideas on how to get the rest of the world to pay their fair share I'm listening.
     
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    Teachers are not slaves. Neither would healthcare workers be

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    Easy. We bring single payer which will bring down our prices and will slightly raise theirs
     
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    I have a hard time imagining a scenario in which subsidizing insurance companies, particularly for something that doesn't lend itself to easy cost benefit analysis like R & D, would ever be a good idea. Although i'm sure they would be happy to take any money that government foolishly tries to give them. And that goes double for pharmaceutical companies.It's possible that we may all have to accept a much lower level of drug research from pharmaceutical companies.
     
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    OK if you think that, I suspect you don't really understand the issue with pharmaceutical companies.
     
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    Your lack of response makes my case
     
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    JIMV Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    and as you have cited no cases or links to constitutional theory supporting your view, I'll just assume you know nothing of the law you promote.
     
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    The left is very optimistic about rights they invent that involve other folks money.

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    thieving is not an ethical imperative except among thieves.
     
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    Feel free to assume away. Lol
     
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    JIMV Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    it's just a leftie...In their world view everyone is supposed to keep them well and happy.

    This defines the issue pretty well

    "To be governed is to be watched, inspected, spied upon, directed, law-ridden, regulated, penned up, indoctrinated, preached at, checked, appraised, seized, censured, commanded, by beings who have neither title, nor knowledge, nor virtue. To be governed is to have every operation, every transaction, every movement noted, registered, counted, rated, stamped, measured, numbered, assessed, licensed, refused, authorized, endorsed, admonished, prevented, reformed, redressed, corrected..."

    Proudon
     
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    What you call thievery we call society
     
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    JIMV Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    why?...
     
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    No one forces you to live under our oppressive system. Lol
     
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    You never responded to the original point. Your answer isn't the answer to the US subsidizing pharmaceutical research. I would recommend educating yourself before issuing your boilerplate talking points. Yes yes, we all know you support single payer, but that has nothing to do with the issue.
     
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    Because it makes for a better society which is the very point of government

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    Your lack of response has been noted already. No need to repeat it
     
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    Teachers are only well to do, not rich as are doctors...Your scheme would drastically lower the income of doctors and other health care profesionals
     
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    Oh.....the horror! Lol
     
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    How 'assume'? You have either cited actual law and constitutional thought or not...You sir, have not.

    You don't seem to have your arms around this 'debating' thing...the idea is for you to present an argument and when rebutted, a more persuasive counter argument, not simply expressing opinion, especially in a field so littered with detail as the law.
     
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    You really can't deviate from talking points! Love it!
     
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    And the Mob called their thieving a 'family business'. Thieves do not get to define their actions, the victims do.
     
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