Helpless Europe to Arab terrorism

Discussion in 'Western Europe' started by Alik Bahshi, Jul 16, 2016.

  1. RiaRaeb

    RiaRaeb Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Not just the Holocaust, criticism of Israel is regarded as antisemetic. Compared with this US based forum much of Europe and the UK has proscriptions on free speech, personally I have always been against any restrictions other than the incitement to violence rule.
     
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    And now you showed to me that you are not only a structural Nazi by the rassistic structure of your thoughts - you are indeed a real Nazi. You are misung the victims of the shoa not because you are a victim of wrong political propaganda on your own - you love it just simple to spit on them.

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    You know less than nothing about Jews or Israel or Germans and Germany. I would say what you know is "I am a british nationalist and a socialist". And from this national-socialistic point of view you take a look into a world you don't understand. The denial of genocides and hate sermons calling for violent deeds are not problems anyone in the world should ignore. This has nothing to do with critics. If you like to know what critics is then perhaps you should try to read something about the "Kritik der Urteilskraft" ("Critique of the Power of Judgment") from Immanuel Kant.

    And it's by the way completly normal to criticise Germany and Israel here in Germany - and also completly normal to be criticised from Israel and/or Israeli who sometimes criticise Israel too. Panta rhei. Israel and Germany are friends.

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  4. RiaRaeb

    RiaRaeb Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    I see, disagreeing with you makes me not only a Nazi but I am spitting on all the victims of the Holocaust!

    I never realised you were such an important person, able to speak on behalf of the dead, you really do need to get over yourself!

    All this because I dared to use a quote which is widely known and attributed to a victim of the holocaust. Tell me since the majority of those who died in the Holocaust were not zionist's do you rant against Israel's shameless exploitation of the Holocaust?

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    RiaRaeb Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    And I would say you are someone who believes they are right, brokers no arguments, has a huge persecution complex, and knows next to nothing about the world outside your small circle. I clearly stated that I believe in free speech except when it involves a incitement to violence! You seek to silence anyone who has an opinion that offends you, get a free life lesson, much as other peoples opinions might upset you, you have no right to not be offended!
     
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    I explained very well why I'm meanwhile convinced you are a real Nazi.

    Hmm ... let me say it in this way: You are now in a situation where you can start to find god. But maybe god likes not to be found from you. I hate it always to have to learn in such ways. Whatever. Even millions of gallons of his blood mixed with the dust in Auschwitz-Birkenau are maybe nothing compared with the trillion tons of spittle of the spitlickers of the Nazis.

    Important? ... God loves me. ... So to say "I am unimportant" would be a wrong form of humility.

    As far as I know was Zionism an idea of the 19th century. Today Israel is real since about 2/3 of a century. What do you have to do with Israel or the shoa? Nothing as far as I can see. You are a Brit - and you are an Atheist. Both qualifies you not to understand the problems in the Middle East.

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    Well ...

    Terrorists made and make always no difference between good and bad at their victims and they don’t care about and even if they sometimes confirm that there are “innocents” included, they call them with military term of collateral damage … no matter if religious or political. Timothy James McVeigh was a political terrorist when making bombing in Oklahoma and does he care about good or bad at his victims?

    It is incredible how good the strategy of the current Islamic terrorists work, unfortunately. No one can seriously deny that they are a small minority of Muslims and this means, that clear majority is not following them, isn’t it?
    So, currently it is IS / ISIS which is the n° 1 in terror attacks as was before Al Qaida ... and who of you all know (or care about) that ISIS and Al Qaida are in war against each other? For ISIS, the Al Qaida are blabbering lefties of Islam and incompetent trolls which needs to be eliminated as worthless Muslims!
    Also known that the old public US enemy Hezbollah ... you remember them? ... and also the Taliban and also the HAMAS are all enemies of ISIS too?

    ISIS has much … too much followers … but they are losing ground in military in the ME and also in support. So what is their strategy?
    To cause fear in the West (Europe and USA and elsewhere) with their terror attacks which can happen everywhere and can hit everyone. They can try a hundred times such a terror attack and can be 99 times be prevented, it is enough to be one time successful for them.
    Out of this fear they want to create anger and hate against all Muslims in the West and looking on all the hate posts done only here in this forum, it is obviously that they are successful:
    Muslims should be more and more excluded from society they are living due to terror fear of the Westerns and so they will be more and more guided to follow extremists like ISIS who always tell how evil we Western are by hating them all etc.

    Well done ... :wall:
     
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    Sure you can offend whomever you like to offend, although everyone has a right not to be offended or to be terrorized. You took the sword against god and the victims of the shoa - and now you have to live with the echo of your own sword. And this echo throws you into your own hell.

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    You are completly right. All this people have not a lot to do with religion. If all this different groups of Islamists seriously would try to kill the unbelievers in god than we had absolutelly no problem, because they all had first to do suicide.

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    No you did not like me disagreeing, more I did not cower down when you mentioned the Holocaust and your family. That is enough for you, I have not shown the reverence such statements usually receive in your world of victim hood. Therefore I must be a Nazi! The fact I am not antisemetic, the fact I am against any form of racial supremacy and the fact that I identify with the left are irrelevant to you. Anybody who does not show the proper respect to the victim is a Nazi. Since you claim to know me well enough to call me a Nazi, do explain which of my political opinions you associate with Nazism? Since you clearly do not know the political ideology of Nazism here is a link to help you out.
    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nazism
    No you throw the term Nazi around like a spoilt child having a temper tantrum in the school playground because teacher told him playtime was over!


    Really, got any evidence that any god spilt any blood at any death camp, let me assure you of one thing. All the blood spilt was of real human beings, suffering real persecution from one of the most vile ideologies ever. No gods involved just mans inhumanity to man, how dare you pretend your non existent god was involved.


    And now we see how you have altered a sentence to avoid the real context, lieing in other words!
    Here is my original line, liar!

    I never realised you were such an important person, able to speak on behalf of the dead, you really do need to get over yourself!

    If you are going to answer be honest, liar.

    I was just pointing out your hypocrisy, and you have shown it even more by accusing me of what you have done when you chose to take this thread of topic with your pathetic attack on my signature, because "your family wouldn't like it" As I said before you will have to waste a long time before I give a (*)(*)(*)(*) about what you or your family think.

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    Everyone has the right to not be terrorized, that has nothing to do with offended! Offense depends on the person being offended, with your tender sensibilities and sense of victim hood you must get offended constantly! Well that's tough. Stay in your own circle with people who agree with you then, in the real world your intolerance to others views and penchant for being offended will be ridiculed.

    Your, incantations, threats and religious mumbo jumbo sound like a witch doctor in the 21st century. Can you not see how your threats of hell are just hilarious in a modern world. Pathetic,sad but kind of cute that some people still believe in such rubbish.
     
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    The demonization of Muslims will only promote terrorism and further the ends of the far right in Europe. We must stick to our core principles of justice and democracy and fight extremism.
     
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    Correct! Any demonization brought nothing in history, even it was a normal act to demonize his enemies in history always. It brought nothing to demonize the communists to fight the far left terrorists we had in Europe (Red Army Faction in Germany, Action direct in France, Brigate Rosse in Italy etc.) and they only ended their terror with end of cold war and communism in Europe.

    We have to defend our democratic core values and principles and justice against any enemy, no matter who it is. Of course have in this matter all people coming to us to follow them without any exceptions!
    But to demonize the currently biggest threat - ISIS - in a behavior of bashing on the complete Islam as it is done so often, plays only in the hands of this terror scum at least. Islam is too big and huge as religion as to ignore or to build walls around us to exclude it from our societies as defense action. If in 100 people are 2 terrorists, you have to find these 2 instead killing all 100 ... this is one of our core values!
     
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    Internment was the biggest recruiting weapon for the IRA they were ever given. Few people remember that when Britain put troops on the streets of NI it was to defend Catholics, we alienated the catholic community and had 20 years of war.
     
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    Correct again! London sent troops, because local Police Forces were marked to be too one sided against Catholic's and there was a bunch of examples which proofed it too. But this was at least a huge error which is unfortunately too often done in history by many ... Military is never some sort of police replacement and nearly any try to make ended in a flood of blood ... as it then happened too and which caused the real outbreak of the civil war in Northern Ireland with all what follows then.
     
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    No comment

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    Yeah - was a terrible thing when Ireland invaded England and forced England to die on hunger.

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    I think you are being sarcastic and realise that Ireland was of course invaded and starved by England, another religious war by the way and of course the class struggle. Quite why you brought up the English when you are speaking to a Welshman I do not know, maybe it's because you thought you were being clever. Of course you just look more idiotic and parochial than ever!
     
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    Do you know what you did in world war 2 in Germany, Englishman, Welsh one? You threw incendiary bombs specially in the center of cities which were build in the middle ages. They burned better than modern cities. The english and welsh barbars murdered in this way lots of innocent civilists: men, women, chidren. And you destroyed in this way a gigantic amount of cultural world heritage.

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    What when we were saving the Jews from gas chambers killed by your fellow countrymen? Would you rather we hadn't:roflol:
     
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    If you could think, then you would know now, why I think you are a Nazi. I'm for sure not a creation of your evil will to murder whomever you like to murder on no reason to do so. I am just simple a child of god not a product of your bombs.

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    RiaRaeb Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    You just throw the word Nazi around like a child, it is just a term of insult to you, it is you that shames the memory of the victims of the Holocaust for comparing someone to a Nazi just because of a few comments on a forum.
     
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    And what's your next joke, Nazi? To try to tell me I murdered my own people? :lol:

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    No I never accused you of murdering anyone, not into your silly little insults, but enjoy pointing out the ones you make. But you still shame your family by comparing someone who makes a few comments on a forum to a Nazi, no matter how offended your tender sensibilities were.
    Get a grip child.
     
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    I don't have any idea what you discuss with me: "Let it be misuse the victims of the shoa" is clear.

    You said for example something like: 'I met Germans. Never had problem with Germans. But since I met you I am convinced in every German exists a kind of Nazi.' This you said because I have jewish ancestors and you think you have the right to offend everyone.

    In the moment I have the feeling my grandpa likes to speak with you - and I don't think he thought about to adopt you. He cleared his nails with a kind of wooden toothpick in the size of a baseball bat. And this bat seems to be hungry. Do you have a cross? Or some garlic? Whatever - it will anyway not help. You are an atheist. Nothing helps atheists.

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