Here are the 144 people Donald Trump pardoned the night before he left office

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  1. Andrew Jackson

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    No but he pardoned some of the worst swamp creatures
     
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    I have a real problem with him pardoning Bannon a multi millionaire for stealing from Dirty Donalds own pet project Build the Wall fundraising scam. They were stealing from their fellow right wingers who were the likely contributors.
     
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    Oliver Stone is not the admin/custodian of US class/secret data. It belongs to neither of them. What Snowden did was willful theft and distribution to foreign agents. He signed a document accepting responsibility of his employment responsibilities. No pardons to traitorous people.
     
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    1. "Oliver Stone is not the admin/custodian of US class/secret data." - Never said he was. Strawman fallacy.

    2, "No pardons to traitorous people." So you don't believe in whistleblowers. Got it that you don't approve of a whistleblower who exposed illegal warrantless monitoring of telephone conversations. Ever heard the expression "a good German"? Where would we be if everyone was a good German?


    https://dailycaller.com/2020/09/03/...ying-illegal-unconstitutional-edward-snowden/
     
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    the lawabiders who ratted out the lawbreakers hiding Anne Frank.
     
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    How many people did Obama pardon that he had a personal connection with? In guessing it's a near zero number considering the RW would have been up in arms about it.

    Trump pardons hundreds of his friends and his supporters just shrug it off. Yet they say they had cronyism. Bunch of hypocrites.
     
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    So you are deflecting. Noted.

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    My point stands. Trump pardoned a ton of swamp rats.
     
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    I am surprised too! Stephen K. Bannon stole money which Trump supporters donated for the Trump's wall – and Trump pardoned him.
    Trump did not pardon his most loyal supporters who broke in the Capitol Hill. And he did not pardon himself.
     
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    Taking something that doesn't belong to you is stealing !!!!
     
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    Pardons are not always a matter of guilt or innocence many times they are about injustice as in the severity of the sentence or the demonstrable redemption by the person who committed a crime. The power of the pardon is a very important part of the separation and balance of powers central to the government. It is an Executive Branch oversight of the Judicial Branch.
     
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  13. Bush Lawyer

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    Rubbish. It has become a political tool, a device a POTUS uses to assist his mates.
     
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    The VAST majority are for people he does not know personally and has never met. I and my fellow country know how our government works and that what I posted is FACT not rubbish.
     
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    So...if he does not know them, that means someone brought them to his attention. Who gets to vet the list. Why TF does a wanker like Lil Wayne (et al) get the attention of POTUS?
     
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    I'm not going to go through every pardon ever issued with you which would not change at thing about which I posted. Go read the Federalist Papers and study American Civics in particular the separation of powers and checks and balances.
     
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    ~ That's politics .
    ~ He did far worse. Oscar Lopez Rivera is one example. { Ever hear of him ? } Obama issued the most pardons since Harry S. Truman. Who cares ..?
     
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  18. Bush Lawyer

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    Oh I know the protocols. Separation of powers is a Westminster thing, not unique to the USA. I also know that every POTUS ignores them and does favours for his mates, personal or political.
     
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    Except that Trump will go down in history as the POTUS who used his pardon to reward the loyalty of his collaborators.

    How that drains the swamp?
     
  20. Andrew Jackson

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    So, I have to DEBUNK this BS Again?:bored:

    The people that you refer to are Chelsea Manning and an 85-Year-Old man (Oscar Lopez-Rivera) who served over 35 Years in Prison.

    During Lopez-Rivera's trial in Chicago he was characterized as a leader, recruiter, trainer and bomb maker for the FALN. However, he was never charged with any specific FALN-linked attacks that injured anyone.
    Lopez-Rivera's legion of backers included Archbishop Desmond Tutu, Former President Jimmy Carter, ex-candidate Senator Bernie Sanders and the star creator of the smash musical "Hamilton," Lin-Manuel Miranda who personally lobbied President Obama on the case.
    When Lopez-Rivera gets out of prison, if he comes to the "Hamilton" production in Chicago, Miranda said he will retake the lead role for that night, in his honor.
    Miranda's parents were both from Puerto Rico.


    Another Epic FAIL for a "Lookie Here, Twitter" talking point.:bored:
     
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    No that’s corruption. You saw little to no corrupt pardons under W or Obama. Trump? Dozens!
     
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    Curious why the left has so embraced this terrorist. Big names on the left flocking to this evil man.
     
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    Did you see everyone Obama pardoned?
     
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    Yes, no swamp creatures
     
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    Like Steve Bannon? Did he pocket any of YOUR cash?
     

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