Here is what the illegal wars do

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  1. Robodoon

    Robodoon Banned

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    [ame="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ft49-zlQ1V4"]No More Victims: Stop the Wars and Bring the Troops Home - YouTube[/ame]
    No More Victims (NMV) is a grassroots organization that connects American communities with war-injured children and their families. Community participants band together to learn how the child was injured, assess the child’s current situation, and work to meet the most pressing needs of the child and family.
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    Comment: Its nice to know there are some Americans who aren't TV government pushed sheeple war mongers . Some know war is the problem not the solution.

    The global elite and their evil wars for NWO must be stopped, don't follow the war mongers and their created wars for wealth and power.
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  2. marbro

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    Thanks for posting this. As a conservative I believe in Peace and prosperity. Believe it or not it’s not just liberals who are sick of wars and innocent people dying.
     
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    Thanks, I'm conservative to, but you know a lot of the liberals don't seem to say boo about the wars now that Obama is in the WH.

    People have to know that these wars are part of a geopolitical game of the elites, all planned a head. It has nothing to do with fighting for freedom or the US. We are being used, we are being hurt as well as a lot of other innocent people all for the efforts and wants of some very sick powerful people who don't care the cost on the human beings as long as they get their way.

    Here is Gen Wesley Clark talking about the pre planned wars
    [ame="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SXS3vW47mOE"]The Plan -- according to U.S. General Wesley Clark (Ret.) - YouTube[/ame]
     
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    You make a good point. We would not have invaded countries without the support of liberals. Thanks for the link
     
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    Speeders R Murderers Banned

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    We have wars because all our leaders are psychopaths and they like being powerful and causing suffering and, of course, making money.
     
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    War is evil. It is always the result of pride, ignorance and fear. The ability of so many US citizens to see the children of their enemy as innocent and blameless is inspiring. The US will continue to protect its own interest and people will be harmed, innocent and otherwise. I wish there was some way to stop this, but I do not think a policy of complete non-US intervention is the cure. The leaders who are intent on opposing the UN and the US will forever harm their own people. When they are opposed everyone gets hurt, when they are ignored everyone gets hurt. Will the soldier who shot that child ever be the same man he was?
     
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    Riiiiiight. Liberals DEMANDED that Bush attack Iraq. Yuppers. It was the RIGHTIES that opposed it. Yuppers.

    And now that Obama is getting us out of Afganistan, righties are attacking him for it.
     
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    Psychopaths? Power? Cause suffering? uhhhhh not so much.

    TBryant said
    uhhhhh not so much.

    We provide our politicians the cover that they seek when we believe they act out of ignorance or bad thinking rather than see the truth. The purpose of war is usually (and moreso since WWII) simply markets, resources, and profits for the top capitalists. The war in Iraq positioned oil companies well for better control and increased profits. A new oil pipeline to the Caspian Sea was begun in the first weeks of that war.

    The problem is that if we were to adopt an policy of international non-interference and war ONLY to defend our own shores from attack, the capitalist system would crumble before long.
     
  9. Nightmare515

    Nightmare515 Ragin' Cajun Staff Member Past Donor

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    I love the people who live in this fantasy world where violence doesn't solve anything. This is the real world, not Mr. Rogers Neighborhood.

    Is war hell? Absolutely. It kills many people, combatants and innocents alike. It destroys families on all sides and destroys much more than just human beings, it destroys economies and infrastructure etc.

    War sucks, but it is necessary in this real world that we live in. Nobody knows the true damage and horrors of war better than those who have been there, I am one of them. I can sit here and write a 500 page essay on sick things I have seen happen to all parties involved in midst of warfare. Saying all that I still support war because I fully understand that we don't live in an expanded version of a first grade classroom where "violence is never the answer".

    Now in regards to the current conflicts abroad, which Im sure is the main focus of this topic, I tend to agree. The last time I checked I haven't picked up a single thing in my house that said "Made in Afghanistan". I could personally care less about them and do not believe that a single person there is the worth the blood of Coalition troops. Terrorism is a legitimate threat to the world, but I honestly believe that if we leave them alone then they will likely leave us alone for the most part, at least in Afghanistan anyway. I got blown up in Afghanistan because I was there, they didn't come get me in my house I was over there. Did they pay dearly for it? Yes. Thats simply because I'm going to defend myself and my fellow troops regardless of if our war is justified or not. Call them freedom fighters or terrorists or whatever you want, attack me or my fellow troops and I'm going to kill you, regardless if we invaded you or not. But thats a different story.

    I say we leave, screw them and their country. Their president publicly stated that he would back Pakistan against the US if we ever fought them. So in my eyes the ungrateful punk can't go "you know what" himself and we should leave tomorrow and let the Taliban have him.

    Bring our troops home, and make it absolutely 100% Grade A crystal clear, if we get attacked again by terrorists then the United States of America will give our middle finger to the entire world and its "opinion" of us and the perpetrating country will pay dearly. We will unleash the absolute full power of the US military and the results will be unlike anything the world has ever seen. We will literally wipe you off of the face of planet earth and make it "stupid" for anyone to ever dare attack the US again.
     
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    No such thing as an illegal war. OP is proving his lack of knowledge as usual.
     
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    War is necessary but it doesnt mean you have to make it with the world.
     
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    Who else would you make it with?
     
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    I wouldnt make war with anyone. People like Hitler make wars. Doesnt mean I am not willing to fight and defend.

    I will say this, If we are going to continue to be an empire based on attacking other nations, at least loot them to pay for the (*)(*)(*)(*) war....
     
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    I agree, sort of. Like with Afghanistan and Iraq. As you can see Iraq is in turmoil since Coalition forces left, I see it everyday on the news. And I honestly couldn't care less. Not our problem. Fight for yourself or get overrun.

    I have no problems with dealing with a legitimate threat. We should have went to Afghanistan, but not the way we did. Just like I fully support giving Iran a hardcore reality check if they don't start acting right soon.

    I dont want to make war with the world, but there are some places in the world that need a firm slap in the face to snap them back to reality.
     
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    If you saw someone making war like Hitler, and knew there was a good chance you would eventually be attacked, would you hit them first?
     
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    We aren't "empire based". We invaded and overran Iraq and established our own approved government there yet my gas is still over 3 bucks a gallon. I should be paying a quarter.

    If we were conquerors then we would have seized Iraqs oil production and used it as compensation for us helping them out. But guess what, Im still paying over 3 bucks a gallon for gas...

    Plus the last time I checked we left Iraq, we didn't stay there and occupy the place and make it an American satellite nation.
     

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