High School Boy Wins All-State Honors In Girls Track And Field

Transgenders are people who have a body of one sex, but not the mentality or identity.
Hermaphrodites have both sexes physical attributes. Are they male, female, or other? Do they identify themselves as 1 or the other or something different.
Both hermaphrodites and transgenders have things that don't make them all male or female.
So IMO, I see them very similar in having the discussion.

So, enlighten me then to why that is not correct.

 

You are correct. Truth is not a personal attack. However a lie is, and you told a lie and now are only resorting to personal attacks because you can't back up the claim you made as a lie.

 

No, hear me out. First, we have to distinguish between professional sports and coeducational sports. For professional sports, I have no sympathy. It's entertainment. Professional sports aren't there to serve special interest groups, they're there to serve the free market. If a professional tablet isn't good enough to make the big leagues, she should play in the developmental league. Simple as that.

For coed sports, though, it's about rounding out the individual. In that case, i would still eliminate the gender-based divisions and instead mandate (via Title IX) that schools offer the same number of spots on sports teams to girls as they do boys. Then, the players are ranked against one another and assigned to either the A-squad (best players) or the B-squad. Bigger schools could even fill out C- and D- squads, or more if they want.

Now here is the point. These squads will likely end up being divided along gender lines, but so what. The important part is that if some dude on the B-squad decides he wants to compete as a girl, it doesn't matter. He isn't going to be placed in a lower division just because he feels like it. Either he competes at his level or not at all.

By the way, this is how my high school tennis team operated. Our singles players had this one girl who could crush male opponents, so she played in the #1 or #2 spot for a long time. Our doubles teams were a mix of guys and girls. If you weren't good enough to play in the top 16, it didn't matter what your gender was, you were sidelined for the competitive meets. But you could always improve yourself and work your way up the competitive ladder.

 

Have to disagree with you; you are plainly ignoring the facts.

 

Who are who want to require men who "identify as women" to engage in women's athletic events, which inherently then means boxing and MMA. It is the left who want to legalize beating up women for profit.

 

I truly despise the radical left PCism and the new crop of PC faux-LGTB activistists. They are the most misogynistic, sexist, bigoted and oppressive against people on sex and gender of all. They furiously demand THEY will dictate who you are, what you are, what words you MUST use to define yourself, what words you are should be banned from calling yourself, and have the greatest possible trivializing, demeaning and hatefully false definitions of women possible - absolutely indifferent to equality for and violence against females.

They absolutely demand everyone is either 100% feminine or 100% masculine - and any man who is feminine then MUST be a "woman" and MUST dress like a woman, and MUST insist they are "transgender," not a man and never was, and themselves as women. They demand if a man as what society defines as female, then he is NOT a real man, he isn't a man at all - he's a woman and everyone must call a woman.It is intolerable to them that anyone has both feminine and masculine traits, perceptions and desires. They demand you MUST be one or the other - and especially for men. Deviate and therefore HE MUST BE A "WOMAN."

Oh hell no would they ever allow a man in a dress on the men's team - snicker-sneer.They demand that's a WOMAN!

It's literally murderous. Buying into that sadism - which they call proven science - the suicide rates among transexuals and transgender men is off the charts. They truly don't care and just blame society rather than their grotesquely bigoted control freak lies.

They are NOT LGTB activists whatsoever. Rather, they are about controlling other people completely, viciously and some certainly ryto enforce their bigotries and hatefully oppressive control-freak ideology. This is most true regarding faux trans-activists. Men competing in women's events is not about trans rights whatsoever. It is a massive backlash by PC left against women actually obtaining nearly equal status and economics for the first time ever in known world history. And the men on the left can't stand it, most of all gay men. They are demanding government make laws so they can take all that from women and put women back in what they see as the limited roles women should be allowed to have.

 

Whatever, we've all seen your posts and all you have is invective, no substance.

 

Pure mysogyny, 100%. You're goal is simple enough. To prove men are superior to women. And to use government to put women back in their place. You can't stand that after thousands of years women actually can have a career in athletics - you want that outlawed for government to dictate there may be on women's events hidining this behind the goal of government ordering a sexless human race.

 

False. The topic is dealing with just over 1/2 of the entire human race, ie females. Just how furious does it make you that for the first time in known human history women can compete for the sports men previously exclusively for men - this being erased by erasing competition exclusively for genetic females? Literally outlawing females having this right by the edicts from - oh yes - from the men in control.

 

I don't know what the bolded is.
And men are not being allowed to compete in womens sports, this thread is about a transgender that was allowed.
Transgenders make up what? 1 of 1000 people?

 

1 of 30,000 for men and 1 of 100,000 for women by some estimates. SRS transexuals are less than 1000 such surgeries per year in the USA.

If you assume no one else exists in a competition but the self declared transgender then you have a point. But, in fact, the women in the competition do matter, not just the transgender.

When it comes to being THE best, #1, there can be only 1. So it wouldn't matter if there were 10,000 genetic females and 1 male playing the game to trash the lifelong efforts of everyone of those 10,000 genetic females.

In athletic competitions, First Place is everything and everything is nothing in terms of status. In fact, 2nd place is considered the absolute worst of all. Better last than 2nd place. When it comes to professional sports, being First Place is everything. Everything else is nothing.

When it comes to the top athletes for most events, it only takes being 1/1000th of 1% superior will decide who gets First Place, who gets the college scholarship, who gets the advertising contract, who gets the offer for professional sports, who gets the status and fame. The winner is who got First Place, everyone else lost.

 

If you want to eliminate gender based anything then why have the same number of spots for girls as they do boys? Where would the boy in this story fall? And what happens after everyone is ranked and 99.99% of the time the top rankings are boys, then what?

 

There is certainly a clear cut difference between male and female and intersex (the pc term for hermaphrodites, btw). I find it hard to believe you would ever have a problem detecting the difference.

 

The kid is a boy, a male, he has all his parts and is not taking drugs. Also, why would you call him a transgender if you actually consider him a girl? Why the alternate name? I'll tell you why, BECAUSE HE'S NOT A FRIGGIN GIRL!!!!!

 

Then these issues are pretty rare. And you acknowledge transgenders exist?

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At the extreme, say the hermaphrodite is the center, it is not clear cut, IMO. Else we would not have transgenders.

 

We don't have "transgenders." We have some very confused and unhappy people.

 

That's men's goal. To totally erase what it took all of known human history to obtain - approaching equality economically and in recognition with men in sports and athletics. To literally literally outlaw competitions exclusively for females - while at the same time having totally opposite rules for transwomen and transmen so that women can not compete in male events. Without exception, men can use hormones and compete in women's events. Without exception, women can not use hormones and compete in men's events.

 

They are increasingly not rare whatsoever and are becoming the norm. Any male who isn't quite good enough to be #1 in male competition merely need say he identifies as a woman and can then compete in women's events.

He can be totally lying and it doesn't matter. There is no standard under the DOJ order - as example - other than he sign a statement. No required hormone therapy and he cannot even be asked a question - plus it illegal to inform his parents he has done so - and POOF he's on the women's team. No requirement to dress like or act like a woman in anyway - just has to sign the form and he's in the girl's bathroom, shower, locker room and on any girl's team. All by an bureaucratic edict BY MEN.

Total war on women - to literally reduce being a woman to absolutely nothingness and to erradicate women having any privacy, any uniqueness, any rights as women, and removed from sports and athletes at economic and status level. PURE HATRED of women by men, particularly gay men.

 

So who says I'm not using common sense? It's quite common for humans to question the nature of things.

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Which claim? The one where I said the strongest doesn't make the best athlete?

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Her name.

 

Has anyone considered how Muslims would feel if boys started competing against their girls, or even boys being on the same team as their girls?

 

You're not a serious athlete are you?

Delusions and reality are the same thing. They're attempts at finding truth. Truth is something that while we will never get to, exists. But the only way we can ever truly arrive there is to have more experiences. So why not do this? It increases the amount of experiences we will have and find out what the world truly is.

 

Sure. I have no qualms with that position because the absurdity of argument that you're going for you haven't established yet. Establish that there is different skills that have an impact on how the people play together. Also because I thought about it for about a second and realized that's basically what parents do with their kids. Kids compete against their parents by playing with them.

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I also bet there are apples that we don't know anything about because the apples don't even have words to describe what they are. Imagine that, not knowing the right word to use when talking about an apple. That seems kinda sad doesn't it?

 

If look at one generation past the current PC crowd among LGTB activists you will find women - lesbian, bi, straight - who are coming to literally hate men who claim they are transgender because essentially 100% also demand the government use it power to strip away everything women have achieved in rights and to reduce being a female to literally absolutely NOTHING at all. I agree with their reasoning.

I have NEVER heard any transgender man do nothing but 100% trash and trivial women to nothingness but a punchline and desiring to steal everything women have for themselves instead. True transexuals (SRS) curiously are not all of that same perspective.

The most I've ever heard anyone rage at and curse a men in a dress claiming to be a woman has been 1.) a lesbian LGTB activist lawyer and 2.) a full SRS transwoman. They are quite absolute that people with a penis and testicles is not a woman, not female, not a girl and is NOTHING like a woman or female - but rather the exact opposite.

Instead, they see it as being mocked and made fun of in demeaning and ignorant ways by a disturbed male, possibly also a dangerous psychological disturbance not to be appeased but instead condemned and disavowed. The SRS transwoman does not claim to be a woman or a female, but rather a 3rd gender - insistent that it is impossible for a man to actually be a woman - which of course is 100% literally accurate. As much as a male wants to be a female, he may never do so. Wearing a skirt and turning in his wrists does not a make a person a woman either.

The definition of "woman" is simple: "A person whose sex is female." However, if a male wants to dress up as a female by social standards that certainly is his right. Doesn't make him a woman. He can never be a woman.

("Kids compete against their parents by playing with them" is a bizarre statement.)

 

Define "play" and how that is relevant to anything.

As for your apple analogy, there is no such thing really as an "apple," rather they all are just "fruit" by your reasoning. What is an "apple" is whatever person says an apple is. There is NO universal definition of the word "apple." Isn't that your claim?

Just like you claim there is no universal meaning of the word "woman" - OTHER that only one certainly you do claim and that is that "woman" absolutely does NOT mean "of the female sex." It can mean anything, other than it does not "of the female sex." Otherwise, the word "woman" means absolutely nothing at all. Isn't that you claim?

I don't even think you have ever even said what your saying you are a woman actually means even to you in any tangible terms, other than in 1st grade you wanted to wear a skirt or something like that. Is that your definition of "woman" to yourself - anyone who wants to wear a skirt?

You've said what being a woman is not in your opinion - it does not mean being of the female sex. How about trying to define what you say being a woman is instead? You say you are one - what does that mean?

 

Huh, it's almost like you think that women are a definiable group that needs protection because the more powerful members of society would simply over power them. It sounds like they need their own separate teams in order to develop their skills because the society at large deny them that opportunity. Maybe they don't have the skills just yet because they were denied opportunities growing up to develop them, but given enough time they will do fine.

Ignoring how you just advocated for AA, the essence of your argument is there. Physique determines who can play on what team. When instead it is skill. I'll admit it was a little trolly. So fair enough there.The point still stands. Power is not the same as skill.

Affirmative Action is defined as the consideration of a defining trait in making a decision regarding where they stand in the social ladder. Let's hold the sexiest argument true for a second. You are saying that someone who is physically weaker can hold the exact same status of athlete as someone of higher physical standing. What's the difference between someone of a race historically discriminated against getting into a college that where "better" qualified candidates get into it?

Acknowledgement does not mean agreement. Our different definitions of Affirmative Action prove this. Rather all words are like this. The words we use reference our definition of the words. The only way we know that our words have meaning however is when we use them with each other ie hold conversations. So the reason why we can say one word means something isn't because one person defines it as such, but rather society as whole gives it a loose definition. So if you go ahead and ask for $50 million you can recognize that as true, but no one else does.