Hillary Clinton: 'Corporations and Businesses Don't Create Jobs'

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  1. bclark

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    Yes. Bush the elder was an awful president as well. Glad to see he only lasted one term.
     
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    Hoosier8 Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Because it is a populist left wing belief. Now that some republican said the opposite, it is now an opposing talking point.
     
  3. AmericanNationalist

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    Our demand is superficial and in reality means nothing. You and I can carry pitchforks and signs for the Time Machine and all we do is look stupid XD. The people whose demand REALLY matters are investors. If they believe there's a profit to be had, they'll invest in your company and your sales, production will GO up the roof.

    In that sense, an entrepreneur doesn't even need to appeal to the broader market, just his stockholders and poof. A Consumer Economy is WEAK, and that's the real problem. Walmart isn't one of the most hated companies without good reason XD.
     
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    I think that she was TRYING to say something entirely different.

    That's a bad videobite that i'm quite certain Krazy Karl & the Koch's will use in 2016 :(
     
  5. Hoosier8

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    Well, if you can figure out what she is saying, let us know because it sounds like what she said to me.
     
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    And if those investors misjudge REAL demand, they will lose their investments. Production of a product does not ensure sale of said product.
     
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    Imho you and HB Surfer are both right, but your pencil example is a little weak.

    Say you are a plumber and hire a guy to do your lawn maintenance. He has the experience and equipment to do a better and faster job than you do. He hires you to do his plumbing for the same reason- you are faster and more experienced at plumbing. If either of your prices gets out of hand you may be looking for a different plumbing service, or lawn service or be willing to try to do more of the other work yourselves.

    Demand for goods and services depends on price. There is a higher demand for plumbing or lawn services at $X an hour than for $3X an hour. There is also a huge demand for gold at the very old price of $35 an ounce, but no supply at that price.
     
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    Just watched the 1 minute video. She didn't actually say "Corporations and businesses don't create jobs."

    She said "don't let anybody tell you it's the corporations and businesses that create jobs" which is different from saying "corporations and businesses don't create jobs."

    The former implies that only corporations and businesses create jobs, the latter flat out states they do not at all.

    To give an example:
    "don't let anyone tell you it's the white people that make USA great" does not mean "white people don't make USA great"

    And I didn't deny anything but was only suspicious of the quote being taken out of context. Turns out she didn't even say it.
     
  9. Papastox

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    From what I have read, the Left doesn't like Hillary. They want Elizabeth Warren including Obama. Hillary and Bill tried everything to get Obama to endorse her for president when the time comes, but their feud is too strong. We will have to see how this plays out. She might be testing the Liberal waters.
     
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    GATT was Carter. And I admit that I supported those treaties. Would we rather have all those workers coming to the U.S. as immigrants? I don't think so.
     
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    Why would you vote for her? I hope Warren gets the nod.
     
  12. Hoosier8

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    Someone else said it right.

    http://www.whitehousedossier.com/2014/10/25/hillarys-build-moment/
     
  13. Papastox

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    Well, she was in very Liberal Massachusetts when she said it and Elizabeth Warren was in the audience. But, would the last remaining Democrat who is not a Socialist, please stand up?

    The Democrat Socialist plan for America:
    ** More unemployed Americans---some Liberal couldn't wait to tell us that the unemployment rate was 5.9%, but the labor participation rate is at a 36 year low. 92.6 million Americans are not in the labor force, so when combined, the unemployment rate is near 12%. Government is not being honest. Surprise! Surprise!

    ** More debt----we are all well aware of this one!

    ** More poverty----more Americans are in poverty than Argentina's population. Since 2008, 6.7 million have been added

    ** More welfare----huge increase under Obama

    ** More food stamps---more Americans are on food stamps than Spain's population

    ** More disability

    ** Lower economic growth

    ** More Poor

    ** More regulations

    ** More government control

    Hillary is positioning herself with those comments to be Obama Part Deux and nobody wants that. If she takes them back, she is seen as a flip flopper. Just keep running her sound bites...especially----what difference does it make? After the midterms, she will be back on the Benghazi hot seat.
     
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    Cruz is ineligible because he is not a US Citizen; the other three are viewed as extremists by many independents and moderates.
     
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    I'd rather not have them come at all! How'd we go from a 19th century protectionist country to a 21st century country of cowards? Who'd honestly build here in America, when other countries are more profitable?
     
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    Question, do you shop at Costco, Target or WalMart? Even though I largely agree with you I'll admit I was at CostCo's New Rochelle store today.
     
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    ever notice that every time one of their heroes takes their Command Economy leanings out for a walk, leftists exclaim "out of context!!"?
     
  18. AmericanNationalist

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    I shop for what I need, and sometimes yes that means Walmart. But IMO, we could've innovated to lower the costs of those HDTV's. We could've tried to create something on par with China's rare metals. America's WEAK in the global economy because all we do is buy it out, and that's not sustainable.

    An independent America will also strengthen other markets, as they can now internalize their own efforts. Globalism IS the 1%. One can't be pro-America and support corporate theft.
     
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    And you are wrong, again...

    Is Ted Cruz, born in Canada, eligible to run for president?

    Scott Walker, Rand Paul, and Dr. Ben Carson normal are average real true Americans.

    Obama, Hillary and all other Democrats are all extreme left-wing nuts.
     
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    Yeah, well pretty much FAIL on that one.
     
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    I don't agree.

    http://www.democraticunderground.com/?com=view_post&forum=1002&pid=3505000



    They may be viewed like that by conservatives, but I'm talking about moderates and independents; they view those three as too extreme based on their views.

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    I disagree. You do not want to admit the obvious.

    http://www.democraticunderground.com/?com=view_post&forum=1002&pid=3505000
     
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  25. Phoebe Bump

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    Since they don't 'produce' a thing, that seems rather obvious, doncha think?
     

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