Hillary Clinton shatters the glass ceiling (inspiring video)

Discussion in 'Political Opinions & Beliefs' started by TCassa89, Jul 27, 2016.

  1. Tipper101

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    She killed the vibe with the massive (*)(*)(*)(*)-eating grin of hers. She dropped it fast though so someone musta told her it looked horrible and go with the more poised look.
     
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    I asked for a citation to support your claim. Do you have one?

    No?

    Perhaps your "challenged" history is missing prominent black women like Sojourner Truth, or Shirley Chisholm. Perhaps it's missing the idea that some of the political positions of prospects were completely out of line with those she intended to represent. See: Charlene Mitchell; communist. Perhaps the problem is that it simply exists in prejudice produced by the biases of your own mind. I don't care to be educated in your fantasy history, thanks.
     
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    ""the problem is that it simply exists in the biases of your own mind.""""
     
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    Fangbeer Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    "Many people in the past have voted for people because they WERE human and not a rare breed of sheep dog."
    "Many people in the past have voted for people because they WERE omnivores and not strict vegans."
    "Many people in the past have voted for people because they WERE developmentally normative and not mentally challenged."

    You see, that's the trouble with attributing motive to outcome. You can make up whatever your little heart desires.

    That is of course until someone challenges you. But if you just project your bias on to them you're probably fine.
     
  5. jrr777

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    If one votes for someone for their gender, it is they that are sexist. If one votes for someone strictly for their race/color, it is they that are racist. For in either case, that is the only reason they are voting for that person. So tell me, how are ever to be rid of racism and sexism, if that is the behavior we participate in?

    Maybe some day, people will quit being so weak, sensitive, insecure, unrighteous, deceptive, unloving, uncaring, racist, and sexist. -MAYBE-
     
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    Fangbeer Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    The problem stems from some people's understanding of equality to mean exactly the same. They come to the irrational conclusion that an arbitrary physical characteristic that is prevalent in 50% of the population must be represented as 50% of any occupation regardless of individual choices. Deviation from their expectation is rationalized as injustice. It's a way to deal with social interactions in simplified ways. Ways that make sense to them because these are the ways they view society. When all you have is a hammer, everything looks like a nail.
     
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    How easy for some to simply deny that racism and sexism ever existed......POOF! There goes history. They 'll claim blacks and women would've been elected if their platform was better :roll:
     
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    Yep guess only angry white men only have the ability to see that you nominated a complete turd. A turd with lower approval ratings then the turd that the gop nominated.
    Lol, the left has become a punchline.
     
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    Well, Carson is not a politician - always good reason to vote for a candidate.

    But Carson supports Trump, and Trump and his supporters are clearly not racists. Surely you know that.
     
  10. jrr777

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    I hope you're not implying that I think racism and sexism never existed. I know they did, and still do. My question is, if we live in the past and our behavior is to feel sorry for something we or I have never participated in. How are we going to be rid of it? If people vote for Hillary just to have the first female president, that alone means they are sexist, and are merely adding to the flames. A president should have the following abilities visually: Honesty, courage, bravery, willingness to hear others and change their ideas for the better, leadership, a history of good fruits, contributions to society (charity), unwillingness to participate in political correctness, for searching for a perfect society is a lost cause. The gender or race should not even matter, for all genders/races have these ability's, it's just none that are in the political realm of modern times. Thus the one closest to these traits should be elected, and it hurts just to say that. I am indeed very embarrassed of the candidates of the greatest nation ever, it shows what we have become, and what we have lost.
     
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    You made a very specific claim. I think you should support it.

    You said that many people voted for candidates because they were white and male. I think the vast majority of people vote for candidates that hold similar views. You know, candidates that are representative of the people who are voting. You seem to think that genitals and skin color have something to do with it. Prove it. Prove to me that a candidate was elected simply because they were white and male. I mean, is this true of Jimmy Carter and Bill Clinton? Is it true of JFK or FDR? Wilson? Which of these candidates were elected for being white and male, rather than for the views they subscribed to? Where the heck is that ridiculous view recorded for history? Did Andrew Jackson write a letter admitting that he was a terrible candidate if not for the fact that his constituency recognized his white masculinity?
     
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    Exactly. Its why one has to question the intelligence of those that approve of AA. The mere fact anyone is celebrating this is creepy enough. It's NOT an accomplishment. Its just life and when a woman becomes president we should HOPE its because of her qualifications instead of how many people are protecting her, or because its her "turn" or because the MSM is in bed with her. Because it certainly looks that way atm.
     
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    everyone.. it's a joke.. you're supposed to watch the video
     
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    Sorry, but if you believe most people dislike her simply because she's a woman, you're an insane person. Seriously, seek counseling and fast. And if people only vote for someone because he's a white male, they're INSANE TOO!!! We already know for a fact, millions voted for Obama just because he was black. And it doesn't help that Hillary made no bones about it. She's already pulled the gender card many times already. GENDER or RACE does not qualify you for DIDDLY SQUAT. It never has and never should. ANY gender and ANY race. NO, its not TIME to elect a woman, especially when her entire career is mired in corruption and lies. She embodies EVERYTHING that is wrong with the political machine, from head to toe, regardless of her gender. How many failures can a person have before they're brought to task? For some they can just keep skating on through.

    If the MSM did their job, she wouldn't even be in this situation. We'd be watching Bernie up there. Bill's speech last night was very telling. The real Hillary is the one the MSM never shows and its the reason he cheated on her. His story of love is hillarious. Can't like someone all that much if you did what he did, in the oval office of all places.
     
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    I have never advocated for voting for anyone because of their race or gender.


    You are looking for a "perfect society" in the form of a "perfect candidate" and one does not exist.

    You don't want one who participates in political correctness so Trump's your "man".....ridiculing the disabled is about as politically Incorrect as one can get, revel in it...
     
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    I have the political history of the United States to prove it.....your blindness is not my problem.....if you deny history no one, and no facts, will ever change your mind....
     
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    I'll predict the first woman US president will be black. :nana:
     
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    Who in the thread would vote for Carly Fiorina right now if she were to somehow replace Trump as the GOP nominee?

    <<Raises hand.

    Who would vote for her over Trump if the primary were only ever between those two?

    <<Raises hand.
     
  19. FoxHastings

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    Some people have always voted against candidates because they were female or black.........but please don't let facts get in the way of a nice repub rant....:nana: :roflol:
     
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    I never said you did advocate voting for gender. I also never said I was looking for a perfect society, rather a perfect society will never happen. Did you even read what I wrote? I never ridiculed the disable in my statement, however even if you admit it or not, I am sure at one point everybody has.
     
  21. GeorgiaAmy

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    How about Ben Carson? I loved Ron Paul, too. And Herman Cain... Voters aren't successfully sold on logic. Think of great commercials...advertising...emotion sells much more significantly than reason.
     
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    Where did I say anything in opposition of that? I said if people do the same thing only voting for someone of race or gender, is the same thing as not voting for race or gender. Either way, it's racist. And until we can see or overcome that, it will always be here. So why, do people who say they want to get rid of it, only add to it?
     
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    Major political contenders that are black or female are pretty new in the US.
    People tend to vote party more than person.
    Bill Clinton was actually coined America's first black president :)
     
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    I did not say YOU ridiculed the disabled but you think political correctness is a bad thing. Political correctness includes NOT ridiculing the disabled...you say political correctness is a bad thing , PEE-U how nasty. You must adore Trump.
     
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    Your confusing political correctness from respect. Being curtious and respectful, is far different than political correctness. National News Media and politics are number one at it. Taking one statement from which is surrounded by context, and putting ones own context around it, to make them seem bad or good, pending the agenda.
     

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