Hillary Clinton: We came out of the WH "dead broke" and "in debt"

Once a government giveaway is implemented, it is impossible to remove it. Removing one is political suicide. You can't even talk about reform without one side claiming you want to kill old people.

Thousands of people in debt is the fault of the people and their culture of debt and instant gratification. Smart people do not incur such debt. One thing government does do that is totally negative are the limits to welfare. For instance, you make too much money and the assistance disappears making the person poorer instantly. The makes a perverse incentive not to work too many hours or get a promotion.

 

Well it's a pretty big key to it don't you think. Along with don't have children out of wedlock, get at least a high school education, don't abuse drugs or alcohol, and don't engage in crime. Do all those things you are about guarantied not to live in poverty.

OK how do you want to fix it then?

Ignoring reality is not going to fix it either.

So we need to put all the poor people in psychological counselling? They all have mental problems and that is why they are poor?

 

Can you show me the CPA certified report showing they had a $2 million negative net worth and no income that would cover it?

 

Hillary Clinton Book Advance, $8 Million, Is Near Record
By DAVID D. KIRKPATRICK
Published: December 16, 2000

Senator-elect Hillary Rodham Clinton agreed last night to sell Simon & Schuster a memoir of her years as first lady, for the near-record advance of about $8 million.

http://www.nytimes.com/2000/12/16/n...on-book-advance-8-million-is-near-record.html

 

One more thing because I need to let this crap out before I explode. I was on welfare in one shape or form for 12 years. The worst years of my life. Horrible. Almost impossible to get out of even with a high school education, coming from a two parent home, and not coming from the cycle. I can tell you the traps and the things you pay back with child support when it comes. The stress it puts you under is harder than any job you have guaranteed. The fact that you can't explain to your kids why everyone else gets to go to Disney is heartbreaking. "Mom, why can everybody else get Secret Santa".

I worked as a lowly burger flipper until I was established enough to go to college. It is the hardest job I have ever had. Hands down. They are not asking to go $20,000 in debt they are asking to live without worry. IF you have to miss the latest iPad, buck up.

Now that I don't get it anymore and make enough to live without worry, I don't feel entitled to all the loans and credit cards I can get my hands on. I have something many in this country preach but do not practice, responsibility. I don't need everything I want. Being poor taught me to appreciate what I have. This country needs a good old fashioned humbling experience. A little nudge that reminds you that it just as easily could be you on the bottom. Last time it took the Great Depression The next one I am sure will be worse.

 

No, my point was that the jobs are not the only problem it has caused. That the problem runs deeper than jobs. What jobs anyway. There are million of poor people last time I looked there aren't that many available.

 

There are more than thousands of American's in debt. You overestimate the intelligence of this country. You are the only person who has given me a well rounded opinion. I really do want a solution that works. I just want people to be willing to look outside of their own self interest. I am very familiar with limits. They kept me on one type of system or another for 12 years. Another problem is making you pay back benefits if you get child support. It makes more sense to let the people keep it and begin to make it on their own. But no you have to pay back cash but still don't make enough to get rid of daycare expenses. Incidentally the daycare provider gets more to watch your kids than you do while you attend their work programs. Personally I think community service would be better than putting people in Work First and teaching them to fill out applications and find out what personality type you are. Worthless. At least community service is something you can take pride in.

 

they were in debt as many homeowners are... but they had one thing many don't, a guaranteed paycheck for life

by the end of the Bush years many could not even afford a home


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And the vast majority of the "poor" are there because of their own life's choices.
Get a high school education at the least, not just a piece of paper handed to you but the education.
Don't have kids before you are married, the biggest indicator of poverty is single motherhood.
Don't get married until you are over 25 years old.
Don't abuse alcohol or drugs.
Don't engage in crime.

And I will add, don't start every new job with the attitude of how can I get away with doing the least amount of work to collect my paycheck.

And yes it is about creating jobs and then cutting welfare benefits. There ARE jobs out there, good paying jobs which people refuse to take because they can live off the dole.

 

People do best when they are able to act in their own self interest. If you are waiting for someone else to act in your self interest you aren't going to get very far and will probably spend some time in poverty.

They kept me on one type of system or another for 12 years. Another problem is making you pay back benefits if you get child support. It makes more sense to let the people keep it and begin to make it on their own. But no you have to pay back cash but still don't make enough to get rid of daycare expenses.[/QUOTE]

YES, what right do you have to the hard earned money of some other working stiff? Child support is SUPPOSED to pay for that and if you collect it GOOD then I don't have to hand over my money to you.

How about we get rid of the worthless Head Start program and make women who are on welfare and have kids work a couple of days a week for minimum wage to babysit the kids at a government daycare, with a qualified manager at the daycare, and then we can deduct that from their welfare benefit. How about that for community service? That gives them 3 days a week to look for a job. Once they get a 40 hour a week job then the requirement they work at the daycare is eliminated and they can start paying based on how much they earn?

 

I wish I could make that kind of statement and have you lemmings believe it . Wow , right off the cliff and she could get you to pay for the excitement of the fall. IN FREAKING INCREDIBLE !

 

What isn't irrelevant to you people ?Is everything given a pass to propagate the left ideology. You can justify this ineptness ? Do democrats have any honor or is your path just morally corrupt .Be careful how you answer and don't blame Bush or your mechanic.

 

Not if the Democrats have one or more of the houses of Congress.

 

YES, what right do you have to the hard earned money of some other working stiff? Child support is SUPPOSED to pay for that and if you collect it GOOD then I don't have to hand over my money to you.

Live the life and tell me how easy it is. The fact that you are paying billlions to the government for these programs and most is not being given to the poor escapes you. Find out just how much goes to the people. They are ripping you off and you will blindly believe in this broken system until it collapses. When you are sitting in the bread line next to me and crying because the rich you are making richer are eating like kings.



How about we get rid of the worthless Head Start program and make women who are on welfare and have kids work a couple of days a week for minimum wage to babysit the kids at a government daycare, with a qualified manager at the daycare, and then we can deduct that from their welfare benefit. How about that for community service? That gives them 3 days a week to look for a job. Once they get a 40 hour a week job then the requirement they work at the daycare is eliminated and they can start paying based on how much they earn?[/QUOTE]

 

They were so "dead broke" that they were "forced" to steal over $100,000 worth of White House property in order to furnish 2 houses that they had just bought. They were forced to return or pay for the items. Meanwhile their staff ransacked and vandalized the White House before they left and turned over the keys to the a Bush staff. The Clintons are really nice people(and that is extreme sarcasm).

 

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I have lived the life and also raised two step-kids (they are now adopted kids) whose sperm donor never paid a dime in child support so don't profess to tell me I don't know of what I speak. I also EARN my money and SAVE my money and take care of myself and my family.

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He seems to have disappeared again after it was pointed out Hillary signed her $8,000,000 book deal advance BEFORE they left the White House so they could have paid CASH for their house AND sent Chelsea through college without having to collect welfare and food stamps.