"Hillary lost because of Trump's macho attitude and sexism." - Justice Ginsburg

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  1. Polydectes

    Polydectes Well-Known Member

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    You favor democracy yet you live in a constitutional republic. There are communist dictatorships and mildly socialist democracies you can move to. Why don't you? It's it because they are **** holes?

    No you aren't the least bit socialist you love it here because capitalism generates wealth and prosperity.

    I think you only advocate for it because it's the only thing outside of communism that is left of our general political views. You are being edgy. You'll grow out of it.
     
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    What we're concerned with now is that Justice Ginsberg recuse herself from each and every single case regarding Trump administration policy as she has clearly, definitively, irrefutably, and contentiously shown her extreme bias against Trump.

    Would you agree, Ron, that any Supreme Court judge who is this outspoken against any President should, in all fairness to justice, recuse themselves from all cases involving said President in order to maintain the integrity of the judicial process?

    Please respond, would appreciate your opinion.
     
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  3. Polydectes

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    She campaigned mostly to California and new York. Which seemed to be a bit strange. Thats the Democratic base. The people that would likely vote for her just to keep a republican from holding office.

    Middle America didn't really get any benefit from the Obama stimulus. Donald Trump spoke to them. Campaigned for them and won them over. While Clinton acted like a complete ****ing snob calling them fly over country.

    So they voted for the candidate that gave them the time of day.

    It seems obvious.

    What I find more fascinating is how the democrats want to make them more insignificant by removing the electoral college. Unless they change that tune they aren't going to be able to win over the people they seem to dispise.
     
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    She is so twisted and wrong that she would not even support the Constitution today. She needs to get out if she thinks so little of the Constitution. It is part of what made America great over 200 years ago but she is part of what tears the country down now every time judges decide to just make us live under their ideas of "justice'. I definitely support mandatory retirement for all judges at age 70.
     
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    Polydectes Well-Known Member

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    Its tolerated because there is a flux. It goes back and forth. There are republican appointees and democrat appointees. I don't think Americans care enough to mob up with pitch forks and torches.

    I figured we'd see some backlash over the Oberfell decision but not much more than a peep was heard.

    People dont care as long as it doesn't alter the convenience of their day to day life.
     
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    I could have sworn the last election was 2 men? Right? ;) And ol’ G is a crazy dingbat who needs to step down. How can she interpret the law when she can’t even interpret reality anymore?
     
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    I am. Even as much as we diagree, we can agree that she is corrupt and a terrible candidate.
     
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    How does it apply to you? Because you have the same self-rightenouss and envy that lead to those genocides.

    'That wasn't real marxism is the most arrogant thoughtless position any person can ever make.' - Jordan Peterson
     
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    You would know a socialist country if it was on your friggin doorstep!
     
  10. Kode

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    Greece isn't socialist. Greece WASN'T socialist. :roflol:

    But you don't know the difference because all you have is capitalist propaganda of anti-Marxist ideologues. And what's worse, you don't want to know the truth!

    Actually, if you know anything about Marxism, you already know enough to get beyond your adopted propaganda. All you need do is to put it together and see what's already there in your brain. But you won't.
     
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    Your flamebaiting aside, I was born in the USA and I live here. My desire is to see the USA overcome the capitalist crap that is holding it back. Your position is the old "love it or leave it" crap. I thought we all grew out of that by now. The sad thing is that I don't really believe you're capable of growing out of your brainwashing.
     
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  12. Kode

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    You're so lost in BS propaganda that it isn't worth replying to you. Show some genuine interest in discussion rather than attacking and I'll take you up. But truth is you are afraid. You're scared to death that socialism may not be what you've invested your bias so heavily in it being.
     
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    It's interesting to compare cultures to the past, I wish more people would take up history as a passion.

    Feel like we (Western Civilization as a whole) in about 400 AD. Our culture is rotting, questioning the very things that made us what we are today. Meanwhile the modern day Huns and Vandals are circling the borders waiting for their chance to strike.

    If we try to destroy masculinity in the Western World, it's not going to just go away. Just like in Ancient Rome, it will simply be replaced. The Germanic tribes who had the actual balls came down and took over Rome. Will be interesting to see what happens in the next hundred years IMO
     
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    Patriots don't grow out of patriotism. Only leftists could possibly think otherwise.
     
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    Hmm, that isn't what he said. He said Greece was a Democracy (technically Athens) and it actually failed miserably. The "trial" of Socrates is a perfect example of how the mob mentality of Democracy in a pure form can absolutely destroy a culture.

    One of my favorite quotes of Socrates/Plato is "Democracy, which is a charming form of government, full of variety and disorder, and dispensing a sort of equality to equals and unequaled alike".

    That is why I much prefer a Republic instead of a Democracy and that is exactly how our founding fathers felt as well.

    With that said, as a self prescribed Socialist, how much of a socialist country would you like us to be?

    We already have A LOT of Socialism involved in our form of government, we are nowhere NEAR a pure capitalistic society.

    Do you think it should go so far as to collect everyone's resources and divide everything equally?

    Do you think it would or would not harm growth and innovation or do you think that the people would come together and it would actually accelerate growth and innovation?
     
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    Seriously don't think anyone cares that leftists who want only about 20 high population centers which they congregate in.. sucking up welfare.. and killing each other by the hundreds every year solely deciding who the President of a Republic of our 50 states is.

    It's absurd. Go awayyy it's boring. Tedious. Haha although I thought it was cute how you admit how corrupt and sleazy the DNC and Hillary are which stole the primary election away from all the little snowflakes. Yes.

    And leftists are so bereft of any brains at all they still support them! Haha oi

    Because Bernie the grand poobah of all socialists living in America would have beaten Trump. Easy.

    But then to turn around and say no electoral college? Popular vote?

    Nope. Never. Ever. Gonna happen.
     
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    I get that. But she's speaking publicly, on personal political position. Usually, THAT isn't tolerated by someone in an ostensibly impartial position of power.

    People don't care as long as it doesn't alter their day? Try telling that to the shrill Progressives and SJWs.
     
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    That is the reason I have a problem with it, it is all just so one sided.

    If one of the conservative justices said something so partisan they would be ripped to shreds.
     
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    There was no national popular vote so there was not one to count. Why do you keep pretending there was? There were 51 individual unique to themselves State popular votes and trump won twice as many of them than Clinton.
     
  20. Polydectes

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    Any criticism of you is not flamebaiting.

    I don't understand why.
    sorry pal capitalism advanced it beyond anywhere else. What ous holding is back is betrayal of capitalism.
    You grow into common sense not out of it. That is regression not growth.

    Anybody who doesn't share you're demonstrably false view is brainwashed?

    Good luck with your endeavor. I hope you post about this every day. Nothing I say can do more damage to your view than your arrogance.

    Thank you.
     
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    I have tried to explain to people the difference between a Republic and Democracy to so many people who just yell back at me "So you're saying America is not a Democracy?" I'm like, uh, yeah, that is what I am saying.

    Pure Democracies have been proven over and over to not work. I think Switzerland is the closest thing to a Pure Democracy
     
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    The Founding Fathers had to guaranty in the Constitution that we would not be a democracy in order to get the States to ratify it.
     
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    Riiiiiight, like "patriots" who don't care if Russia meddles in our elections, or who ignore the heads of 3 Russian intelligence organizations secretly sneaking into the US and even when one of them is BANNED by sanctions. Like "patriots" who don't care for traditional operation of congress that involves discussion, negotiation, compromise, and VOTING on issues and bills. Like "patriots" who have no interest in checks and balances or rational objection to a "president" who admits to groping women, is incurious, unable to focus long enough to read much of anything, knows little about the Constitution, tweets foul and unbecoming things, who runs his businesses while in office even though he said he would put them in a blind trust, and who utterly lacks the characteristics and qualities and qualifications of any other president.

    Yup. Tell me all about patriots. LOL!!!!!
     
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    Not quite. Check post #113.


    There is no "pure" anything, but every country is either predominantly one or the other. The US is predominantly capitalist and has a preponderance of capitalist laws. So much so that forming socialist businesses is at best difficult and at worst in some states, impossible.


    Bad idea. That's not socialism anyway.


    It would probably damage growth and innovation and lead to civil unrest.
     

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