Hitler's Second Book

On April 4, 1945, elements of the United States Army’s 89th Infantry Division and the 4th Armored Division captured the Ohrdruf concentration camp outside the town of Gotha in south central Germany. During the camp inspections with his top commanders Eisenhower said that the atrocities were “beyond the American mind to comprehend.” He ordered that every citizen of the town of Gotha personally tour the camp and, after having done so, the mayor and his wife went home and hanged themselves. Later on Ike wrote to Mamie, “I never dreamed that such cruelty, bestiality, and savagery could really exist in this world.” He cabled General Marshall to suggest that he come to Germany and see these camps for himself. He encouraged Marshall to bring Congressmen and journalists with him. It would be many months before the world would know the full scope of the Holocaust — many months before they knew that the Nazi murder apparatus that was being discovered at Buchenwald and dozens of other death camps had slaughtered millions of innocent people. General Eisenhower understood that many people would be unable to comprehend the full scope of this horror. He also understood that any human deeds that were so utterly evil might eventually be challenged or even denied as being literally unbelievable. For these reasons he ordered that all the civilian news media and military combat camera units be required to visit the camps and record their observations in print, pictures and film. As he explained to General Marshall, “I made the visit deliberately, in order to be in a position to give first-hand evidence of these things if ever, in the future, there develops a tendency to charge these allegations merely to ‘propaganda.’”

http://www.warhistoryonline.com/articles/during-wwii-general-eisenhower-ordered-every-citizen-of-gotha-germany-to-tour-a-concentration-camp-after-seeing-the-camp-the-mayor-hanged-himself.html

General Eisenhower was not as easily sickened by the smell of the dead bodies. Although he didn't mention the name Ohrdruf in his book entitled "Crusade in Europe," Eisenhower wrote the following about the Ohrdruf camp:

I visited every nook and cranny of the camp because I felt it my duty to be in a position from then on to testify at first hand about these things in case there ever grew up at home the belief or assumption that 'the stories of Nazi brutality were just propaganda.' Some members of the visiting party were unable to go through with the ordeal. I not only did so but as soon as I returned to Patton's headquarters that evening I sent communications to both Washington and London, urging the two governments to send instantly to Germany a random group of newspaper editors and representative groups from the national legislatures. I felt that the evidence should be immediately placed before the American and British publics in a fashion that would leave no room for cynical doubt.

http://www.scrapbookpages.com/Ohrdruf/

 

Hey ThirdTerm

You're just repeating what we read in mainstream history books and are taught in school and that doesn't make the arguments put forth in the videos in my above post go away. The theory is that they are lying to us. Just telling us what the alleged lies are doesn't address the issue. Start checking out the alternative info.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4cYaonpIGYk

Here's another thread I started.
http://forum.grasscity.com/pandoras-box/1107911-stuff-about-holocaust-denial.html

Look at the stuff in my posts.

 

The purpose of WWI was to kill off or demoralize the excluded classes so that the decadent aristocracy could once again rule absolutely. The American Civil War had the same motivation.

 

I just found this. All three links go to the same article. Here's an excerpt.
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Canadian researcher Dr. Henry Makow (who is Jewish himself) says the main reason why the bankers arranged for a world war against Germany was that Hitler sidestepped the bankers by creating his own money, thereby freeing the German people. Worse, this freedom and prosperity threatened to spread to other nations. Hitler had to be stopped!
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The last link also has some intersting hotlinks to other stuff.

http://www.wakeupfromyourslumber.com/node/6720
http://hitlersbank.blogspot.com.es/2009/06/hitler-did-not-want-war.html
http://northerntruthseeker.blogspot.se/2012/03/more-important-history-revealed-how.html

 

The link to the book that's in post #1 doesn't work anymore so here's another.

http://www.whitehonor.com/ZweitesBuch.pdf

If this one stops working, do a Google search on "Hitler's second book".

 

Actually, I always found the deniers to be infantile and ignorant, not to mention the vast majority were simply racists.

And we have several deniers in here as well, but nobody takes them seriously. Their credibility is about equal with all of the other conspiracy theorists.

 

First of all, calling them "Deniers" misrepresents their position. They don't think the Holocaust didn't happen. They think it happened but was exaggerated and distorted. They are actually Holocaust-minimizers.

Have you seen these videos?
https://www.google.es/search?q=Ausc...-8#q=Former+Religious+Jew+On+Holocaust+Myths+
https://www.google.es/search?q=Ausc...0.69i57j69i62.3920j0&sourceid=chrome&ie=UTF-8
https://www.google.es/search?q=Ausc...=chrome&ie=UTF-8#q=ONE+THIRD+of+the+HOLOCAUST
https://www.google.es/search?q=Ausc...UCHENWALD+A+Dumb+Dumb+Portrayal+Of+Evil+1/32+
http://www.youtube.com/verify_controversy?next_url=/watch?v=4X1owF0vgnw&bpctr=1376830507
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jx9G4zmpKv0

Here are some examples of some typical Holocaust-minimizers.
http://waronyou.com/forums/index.php?PHPSESSID=fc24747084335539972375683a4ef7b3&board=65.0

From what I've seen, Holocaust-minimizers have neither an a priori incredulity, nor a naive willingness to believe. Holocaust-believers seem to have an a priori incredulity when presented with the minimizer evidence and they seem to have a naive willingness to believe when presented with the official US government version of things.

Any racists you've seen on the internet might be government disinfo agents trying to discredit the movement.

 

Here's one I just came across but haven't watched yet.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dahUgZHEZ0U
"Germar Rudolf - Holocaust Revisionist in Exile (Full)." YouTube

 

Here's another.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xm8UmMuRSSw&bpctr=1382123105
"Holohoax Survivors who Tell the Truth"

 

And it does not matter. I do not care if it is 6,000, 600,000 or 6,000,000. The fact that they conducted a planned genocide and killed huge numbers of their own people is what matters, and your trying to minimalize the actual numbers of jews, Romani, Slavs, and others is meaningless.

And yes, I have the same opinion of the Ottoman Turks, the Khmer Rouge and what has happened in Darfur as well. And all of the youtube videos and posts on revisionism makes no change in my opinions on this.

However, it does tell me where to place you in respect to this issue.

 

All I'm trying to do is separate the lies from the facts. What's so wacky about that? From what I've seen, it looks like the gas chambers were a lie. Doesn't that seem like an important issue to you?

 

Ahhh, you are not a denier, you are a zealot for the truth!

I see, good day denier.

 

Hitler is known to belong to Y-DNA Haplogroup E1b1b1 (E-M35), which originated in Ethiopia. The subclade E-V13 is a Greek branch of E1b1b1 and its frequency is as high as 35% in some parts of Greece. E-V13 migrated directly from North Africa to Southern Europe and it gradually spread to Germany and Eastern Europe (i.e. E-L241, E-L540). Contrary to widespread beliefs, Hitler did not despise non-Europeans and he got along well with Japanese and Arab leaders when they visited Germany perhaps because he was aware of his remote non-European ancestry.

 

Thanks for sharing the books of Hitler

 

Meanwhile the Germans were negotiating with Poland to form an alliance against the Soviet Union.

 

No you're wrong, the holocaust denier morons have never made a good case for anything.

 

Holocaust deniers are a lower form of life, falling in a category somewhere between insects and bacteria.

 

No objective person who actually looks at the info would agree with you. You seem to be trying to mislead those viewers who haven't looked at it. I urge the viewers not to be swayed by rhetoric and look at the info before taking a stand. I posted some of it in post #32 on page #4 of this thread.
http://www.politicalforum.com/showthread.php?t=268851&page=4&p=1063210314#post1063210314

 

Here's some more stuff for objective people who want to do some research.
http://ihr.org/
http://codoh.com/

http://vho.org/Intro/GB/Brochure.pdf
(excerpt)
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First of all, because of false representations by the media, it
is necessary that we first clarify what Holocaust Revisionism
does not maintain:
– it does not deny that Jews were persecuted under the Third
Reich;
– it does not deny that Jews were deprived of civil rights;
– it does not deny that Jews were deported;
– it does not deny the existence of Jewish ghettos;
– it does not deny the existence of concentration camps;
– it does not deny the existence of crematoriums in concentration camps;
– it does not deny that Jews died for a great number of
reasons;
– it does not deny that other minorities were also persecuted,
such as gypsies, Jehovah’s Witnesses, homosexuals, and
political dissenters;
– and finally, it does not deny that all the above mentioned
things were unjust.

None of these crimes of the National Socialist regime are
doubted by Holocaust revisionists. In the view of the Revisionists, however, all these injustices have nothing to do with the
Holocaust, which is defined as planned and organized mass
murder, carried out specifically in homicidal gas chambers (see
Question 4).
Holocaust revisionists believes the following to be correct:5
1. There was no National Socialist order for the physical extermination of Jews;6
2. Likewise, there was no National Socialist plan for physical extermination of Jews;
3. There was no German organization and no budget for carrying out the alleged extermination plan. Consider the
statement by the world-renowned Holocaust researcher
Prof. Raul Hilberg:7
»But what began in 1941 was a process of destruction
not planned in advance, not organized centrally by any
agency. There was no blueprint and there was no budget
for destructive measures [of the Juden]. They [the measures]were taken step by step. Thus came about not so much
a plan being carried out but an incredible meeting of
minds, a consensus mind-reading by a far-flung [German] bureaucracy.«;
4. In detailed investigations of former German concentration
camps, expert researchers have established: The internment camps had no sophisticated methods for mass murder, in particular no homicidal gas chambers.8
Furthermore, the reports of mass shootings behind the GermanRussian front were greatly exaggerated and taken out of
context;9
5. There were neither adequate industrial facilities nor sufficient fuel to cremate such a huge number of corpses. In
fact, the capacity of the crematories was barely sufficient
to cremate the bodies of those who died from starvation
and epidemics.10
6. There is no documentation for the existence of homicidal
gas chambers,11 and no material traces of alleged mass
murders.12 All ‘proof’ relies on eyewitness accounts only,
whose unreliability is widely acknowledged.13
7. Despite massive observation by spies and resistance
groups in areas in the near vicinity of the German concentration camps, all of Germany’s wartime enemies conducted themselves as if no exterminations of Jews were
taking place. The charges of genocide were not raised until after Germany’s defeat, when there was no German
government to dispute them.14
8. Statistical investigations of living Jews worldwide show
clearly that the losses of this ethnic group during the Second World War were nowhere near six million. The exact
number is probably well under half a million.15

 

I know exactly where your phony information comes from. I despise lying Nazi scum.
http://www.jewwatch.com/jew-history-jewwatch-frank-weltner.html

 

You must be kidding with this list of BS, every single item on your half wit list can easily be disproved with massive amounts of indisputable evidence backed by volumes of documentation. There isn't one true statement in your whole stupid list.

 

[video=youtube;kWR2I5Q9d9U]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kWR2I5Q9d9U[/video]

 

Read and learn.
http://fcit.usf.edu/holocaust/resource/document/document.htm

 

This is the first time I've heard of that guy. I got the info info from that post from here.
http://vho.org/

If you don't actually prove it, you're just spouting empty rhetoric.

That's second hand info that may or may not reflect reality. It also doesn't make the analyses in these videos go away.

Do YouTube searches on these videos.

Former Religious Jew On Holocaust Myths;
Auschwitz - Why The Gas Chambers Are A Myth;
ONE THIRD of the HOLOCAUST;
BUCHENWALD A Dumb Dumb Portrayal Of Evil 1/32;
"Judea Declares War on Germany";
The Complete David Cole and Mark Weber on the Montel Williams Show

 

You are lying....end of story.