Hmmm....a teacher shortage crisis

How can you personally practice socialism that features by its nature collective action? Don't others have to also practice socialism?

Collectivism is the very essence of socialism.

Collectives are how production is undertaken.

There are people like Bernie Sanders who call themselves socialists, but long ago gave up on collective production. It doesn't work, so I don't blame Sanders and Friends.

I have university training is economics, finance, and history. You're the one who's confused.

There are damn few worker-owned businesses. We're not talking lifestyles, but instead talking about how production is done in a country.

There is no free market for public school teachers, so there's nothing to discover.

You figured that out, did you?

My district isn't special. More than 2,000 teachers and only the superintendent (and secretary-treasurer) makes $200,000. Not much room at the top.

No.

 

Socialism is not predicated on collectivism. Socialism addresses ownership/control of production. That can come through many avenues. Most people assume it has to be government or some other authoritarian entity directing and/or owning production in the name of the worker.

But anyone can participate to a great extent in worker owned/controlled production. And they don’t have to live in a commune to do so. You shouldn’t judge socialism on Wikipedia entries or criticisms of socialism from right wing nuts. Or left wing nuts that convinced right wing nuts that the country is going socialist because of taxing and spending of largess of capitalism.

The more worker owned/controlled economic activity there is, the more opportunity there is for everyone to participate in socialism at the personal level.

Let’s drag you away from the right wing blogs for a minute and look at what the Stanford Encyclopedia of Philosophy says about socialism.

https://plato.stanford.edu/entries/socialism/#SociPrin

That is the essence of socialism. Of course socialists can choose collectivism. Just like Westboro Baptists chose to be bigots. But that doesn’t make all Baptists bigots or all socialists collectivists.

Perhaps to you and right wing bloggers. Not according to the Stanford Encyclopedia of Philosophy and those of us actually practicing socialism.

Only if you are a collectivist. A socialist is only concerned with worker ownership/control. It’s like buying an F-150. You can buy it with power windows and and a towing package or without power windows and no towing package. It’s still an F-150. A socialist that practices collectivism and one that doesn’t are both socialists if they are concerned primarily with worker ownership/control of production.

Nothing Bernie promotes is socialism. It’s redistribution of capitalism’s largess.

So you say. Unfortunately the facts don’t support your positions. Your claimed education is irrelevant here. What matters is my positions are backed by discoverable evidence while yours are just unsubstantiated opinions.

Hmmm. According to Harvard Business Review 12% of the workforce are working in employee owned businesses.

https://hbr.org/2018/08/why-the-u-s-needs-more-worker-owned-companies

Then there are the approximately 8% of workers who are self employed without payrolls. That gives us 20% of the workforce participating in worker owned models. Certainly not an insignificant number.

Not included in the above statistics are self employed agricultural workers. They would add a bit to the tally as well. My business is 100% worker owned.

Wages and services are two different things. There can be wage discovery independent of the market structure of the provided service.

There’s nothing to figure. It’s quite obvious.

Nobody is claiming your district is special. There is a path to big money by moving from teaching into administration in “your” district just like everywhere else.

Then there is definitely a path to big money by moving out of the classroom into administration.

 

And FL doesn't want the groomers in Fl's schools, so this is a split made in heaven.

K-12 IMPLOSION UPDATE: DeSantis signs new law amid teacher shortage, education colleges’ woke initiatives.

"In repose to Florida’s 9,500 teaching and supporting staff vacancies, Governor Ron DeSantis signed into law Senate bill 869 on June 9, allowing veterans to teach without having a bachelor's degree."

"Growing along with the national shortage is the abundance of college education curriculums entrenched in leftist propaganda, inducing DEI and LGBTQ training."

Strong Recruitment Effort of Master Sergeants for Florida Classrooms.​

But while our national colleges are not recruiting and producing teachers, they are drowing the ones they have in sick wokeism:

"A research school had been teaching 6-grade students about pronouns, gender identity, and using terms such as “people with a penis” and “people with a vulva.”'

Colleges are "training future teachers to include leftist propaganda in their lesson plans."

"UCLA’s teacher education program trains “social justice educators” and prepares its graduates to bring anti-racist teaching to the K-12 classroom. "

"At American University’s School of Education, education majors are taught Critical Race Theory to help ‘affirm’ students’ backgrounds."

"In the 2021 fall semester, The Ohio State University’s Early Education program contained multiple courses surrounding “racism, oppression, sexuality, and privilege.”'

"In a final blast to critics about his decision, Governor DeSantis said, "I will take the marine every day of the week and twice on Sunday."

Fresh Thinking
New Solutions.

 

Or...maybe not, and this is from The Atlantic.

There Is No National Teacher Shortage

 

I wouldn't mind if this groomer-teacher quit.

Texas teacher to students: Call pedophiles "minor-attracted persons"

Can she see which fingers are sticking up? We call them pedaphiles.

'A teacher in El Paso, Texas, is on administrative leave and facing termination after she told students to call pedophiles “minor attracted persons” in an incident that was captured on video and shared on social media, according to the city’s school district.'

Texas? Some to be 'former' teacher until she can hook up with a pro-groomer school district.

“stop calling them that. You’re not allowed to label people like that. We’re gonna call them MAPs, minor attracted persons. So don’t judge people just because they wanna have sex with a 5-year-old.”

'El Paso Teachers Association, Amber Parker, who teaches English at Franklin High School.'

 

PAYWALL!

 

Weird, not for me and I'm certainly not an Atlantic subscriber.

Try this: https://web.archive.org/web/2022082...1214/?utm_source=facebook&utm_medium=news_tab

 

Thank you for the link.

However, the article basically boils down to that there is not enough data to definitively state for sure what the issues are, and if student enrollments are declining, that seems like something to be worried about too, don't you think?

“I’m not confident about the education data, but I think we’ll eventually discover that public-school enrollment declined in the 2022–2023 school year even as districts hired more teachers than they had before the pandemic,” Aldeman told me. “If the student ratio goes down, it’ll be very hard to call that situation a ‘teacher shortage.’”
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I don't have any kids, so I don't have any real skin in this dog fight, but I am aware of the continual decline in community support for teachers nationwide, and during the last administration, a whole bunch of manufactured crises like the CRT scandal certainly didn't help, especially in light of the extraordinary circumstances of the pandemic.

We really won't know until years later how badly we have shortchanged our children's education, but then by that time, we will have to deal with the fallout of the dropouts. The only ones that are going to be able to make this determination are the 20 year olds of today who will have to deal with the educational deficiencies of the generation coming up behind them.

 

Many of these news sites will allow you to read a few articles for free, then lock you out with the paywall once you hit your quota. What that means is I've read more of the Atlantic than you have. That's all.

 

Well I think we already know how the pandemic effected students. There have been multiple studies already that show that American kids are way behind and we've damaged a generation with lock downs. That's an issue that seems, at least to me, more important than an alleged teacher shortage.

 

Could be. I usually read Atlantic articles on my phone, not on my PC.

 

Even prior to the pandemic, the environment we have created for teachers is not very promising, and in some districts, the disparity is quite large.

I seriously do not understand what would compel anyone these days to contemplate becoming a K-12 teacher. The pay sucks, the only way to get more pay is to increase your own education and therefore become more indebted to student loans, and then on top of all that, having to deal with parents who bitch about manufactured crap because Faux News told them so, yet they couldn't be bothered to attend regular PTA meetings before.

I'm glad I don't have kids. It's freaking nuts!

 

Well it sounds like you know all about parents and teachers then. I've often found that to be the case that nonparents know better than parents...at least that's what they tell me.

 

My ex is still a teacher, and I had a cousin who was a superintendent of schools in FL. So, I base my experience on those relationships.

 

Fact: Project 1619 is based on CRT per the author.
Fact: Project 1619 is being taught in 14,000 public schools across the nation.

Fact: CRT is being taught in our public schools.

 

Worked for me, and I'm not a subscriber:

'For several weeks, I watched this Great American Teacher Shortage narrative bloom across the media landscape. Because of my reporting for my abundance-agenda series, I was predisposed to believe it was real. The U.S. is rife with shortages, including of infant formula and monkeypox vaccines. But I was also skeptical, because so many public-education controversies—see: the debates over remote schooling, the proper way to teach American history, and controversial laws regarding how teachers can discuss sex ed—are plastered with ideology.'

So political propaganda was suspected

'When I spoke with education researchers and writers to figure out what was really going on, a more complex narrative emerged. In parts of the country, schools are struggling to hire staff. But they are mostly the same districts that have been struggling for years to fill the same positions, such as substitute and special-ed roles. In the big picture, the new and catastrophic national teacher shortage is neither newly catastrophic nor, in any meaningful sense, national. Under one interpretation of the murky data, the country might even have a teacher surplus on its hands, because so many parents have pulled their children out of public schools since the pandemic began.'

So, is bs liberally squared in service of the Left's latest 'narrative'.

“There has not been a mass exodus of teachers across the country,” Heather Schwartz, a senior policy researcher at the Rand Corporation, told me. Chad Aldeman, who writes about education finance at Edunomics Lab, agrees. “The public narrative has gotten way ahead of the data and is even misleading in most cases,” he told me.'

More gaslighting lies in the service of the DNC's political needs.

The single most consistent message I heard from people I spoke with for this article: America’s national teacher shortage is dubious, but America’s education-data shortage is dire. “To date, there is little firm evidence to support claims of an unprecedented crisis,” Matt Barnum wrote on the education-news site Chalkbeat.

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Some of these Leftists lie about everything.

'More than a year ago, Matthew Kraft, an associate professor of education at Brown University, started to collect data for a paper on the education labor market during COVID-19. It was meant to be a review of the dreaded teacher shortage that so many educators had warned about. But the more Kraft read, the more he realized that he couldn’t make any definitive conclusions. “We had to walk back the entire first version of the paper because of the weakness of the existing data,” he told me.'

'The data that we have don’t suggest anything approaching a “catastrophic” shortage. Data obtained by Barnum from five states and 19 large U.S. school districts, including in New York City and Houston, show that teacher-turnover rates haven’t actually increased.

'“I think we’ve actually gained classroom teachers in the last year."

'In fact, the clearest nationwide story isn’t a sharp drop in the number of public-school teachers. It’s a sharp drop in public-school student enrollment.'

If student enrollment has experienced a sharp drop, we shouldn't need as many staff, given that, it probably more likely that we are SURPLUS of staff compared to student enrollment.

Maybe schools should trying showing parents more respect and increase their focus on core academics.

 

So you have had a teacher in your life and didn't understand why she did it?

Interesting.

 

If your goal is to psychologically assault the children for the purpose of producing dysfunctional adults who are incapable of defending themselves, their country, and their freedom...

Then doesn't subjecting them to an even more dysfunctional environment in the government school system due to a lack of teaching, structure, and discipline accomplish the same end??

So, from the perspective of liberals, what does it matter if there are any teachers (indoctrinators) at all??

Jay Leno's Jaywalking... Citizenship questions.

The "teacher" from Fresno... quality education, right??

At least they had a hot asian chick

 

OK maybe we have to many teachers.

 

So then more elementary school boys get to keep their testicles and the girls get to keep their breasts? this sounds like a WIN to me! at least the kids won't be having gender dysphoria every day after school.
Time to give up on the American education system that has been politically compromised.
If you don't home school your kids then just please don't complain when one of them commits suicide because they got a masectomy at 13 and at 17 were like "oh damn, i kinda wanna be a woman with bewbs!, i should have never listened to that lib teacher".
Teacher shortage = safe children

 

In New York, I think it was New York, the schools have to provide a special room for all the teachers who aren't allowed to teach, but can't be fired because of the union and all the legal red tape.

So the useless teachers show up and just to hang out on full salary.

Some years back, a former inlaw of mine was a teacher - he was pulling down 2 top of scale salaries because he was a "counselor".

A few years before he "retired" - he retired, lol... that is, he retired to collect his full pension, then was hired back at his 2 full salaries!!! Triple score!!!

He's as hardcore a lefty democrat as they come... complete scumbag.

 

Unfortunately new teachers have been liberally indoctrinated. Keep teachers over 40s and the rest can be flipping burgers or something more useful than their crappy liberal teachings of sex to minors

 

Oh, I know why she did it, but it's not my place to mention it here.

 

In that case, being a lefty democrat pays off in spades.

 

Are you saying this from the line-up to become a police officer Mr. doer?

Don’t make us laugh with your BS.