I agree, we know there were camps, we know they gassed people,,we have seen plenty of bodies piled up. What's the difference if it was Millions or thousands? The intent and hatred was there, they wanted them .....GONE! History can never forget what humans were capable of, and still are...
Given America's treatment of its own minorities I think it's funny that they get upset over the Germans' treatment of their very own domestic enemies who tried to destroy Germany. They had already destroyed Russia and tried to install another communist government in Germany.
So why didn't the top ranking Nazis defend themselves at Nuremberg with the defence that it didn't happen? Why did the various other lower ranking Nazis only defend themselves with the, "We were only following orders," defence? Why do deniers always ignore these inconvenient facts?
Excuses, excuses. And you left out that Germany didn't just try to exterminate the Jews, they also tried to exterminate the Gypsies, homosexuals, the mentally ill.... All things that a certain particular group wants to pretend or try to convince others 'never happened'. You want to start a thread about other genocides, welcome to it. Trying to defend the Nazi extermination camps is disgusting.
Thanx to whoever posted a bunch of RIDICULOUS imperialist-jew-generated propaganda pics in an attempt to keep the lie alive. Those pics were all doctored or presented completely out of context. Gimme a break. Somehow, the German officers on trial for the "holocaust" were impervious to the pressures of Amerika and israel's shadowy hand of Imperialism. LMFAO. Those trials were a complete circus. Please watch any footage you can get from the trials. If you're patient enough to sit through the translations, I guarantee you'll be laughing at the stupidity and illegality of the proceedings at several points. I don't hate israel, I don't love Palestine. I just enjoy pointing out the follies of mankind. I also appreciate all opinions contrary to my own. I love that I have the freedom to post here. Respond to this from your typical unknowingly Imperialist perspective.
So what if the pictures are real? Some of the Civil War POWs looked like that. Why do you expect enemy POWS to fare better than the troops and other people in the war zone? But there were a lot of fatties in the German concentration camps. They were either collaborators and/or they stole food from the skinnies.
What a flaccid spasm of hand waving. This is an internet forum. How much "context" did you expect? We will not write for you volumes of history, especially given your allergic response to anything that challenges your prejudice. You asked questions. You got answers. What you do with that is entirely dependent on how willful your ignorance insists on remaining.
Well, you know. So countries like Iran could drop a certain rhethoric in the future invoking a holocaust imagery to suggest someone would get wiped out or brought to the end of their lifeterm who rules in Jerusalem. This provokes fear and sets a bad tone in regional diplomacy, and now the Israelis began demonstrating they can talk tough too suggesting that Lebanon will ceize to exist in its current form. Palestinians have indeed met with many injustices, but the program of Israeli settler introduction into the West Bank areas although in many ways outrageous compares nothing in scale or form to the Holocaust. In reference to your other post, keep in mind, in 1948 an equal number of Palestinians were uprooted from or left their homeland as the number of practitioners of Judaism who were forced out or voluntarily migrated from their Arab homelands and moved to Israel. Hence both sides can lay claim to 'Never Again', but the Palestnians seem to experience it on a smaller scale now and then.
So what part of the following did you not understand? Originally posted by PanzerCampfWagen: So if the holocaust never happened why did Himmler write about it in his diary? Why did no one at the trials defend themselves with the, "It never happened," defence? Instead they just claimed that it was their right, the Jews deserved it, I was just following orders, you have no right to try us for it, etc.
You have to understand the childlike mentality you are dealing with here. They don't care about facts. They don't care about logic. They don't care if God himself comes down, slaps them upside the head, tells them flat out that the Nazis killed (insert EXACT number here) and then personally introduces them to every person who had died. It just doesn't matter. Hatred has made them blind to any truth but what they want to believe. That is what allows things like the Holocaust to happen in the first place. That is why we, as a society, must never stop fighting the ignorance, bigotry and hatred spewed by these people. It doesn't matter if they are talking about the Jews, Islam, Christianity, Atheism, Black, White, Asian, Hispanic, Gays, or (insert favorite stereotyped group here). Ignorance and hate are the tools fools use to justify what even to them would be disgusting thoughts and actions.
Agree completely. The anonymity of the internet allows these folks to spread their gospel of hate. I am all for free speech- but that includes my right- and obligation to denounce what I consider to be their hateful speech.
So now I've been dubbed RACIST and a HATE monger. That's quite ignorant if you ask me. I am not a hater of jews. I despise Leftist Imperialism. It just so happens that the jews are the most Imperialist group of humans on the planet right now and I think they need to get cut down. If it were ANY other group I would be saying the exact same things.
Nobody here has stated that. Your own posts on the other hand.... Do you even read your own posts? "I don't hate Jews but they need to be cut down". Like I said, nobody here needs to call you anything. You prove it with every word you type.
Typical leftist. take my words out of context, edit them juuust so.... leave out when i said...if it were any other group i'd be saying the exact same things.
-------------------------------------------------------------------------------- This quote is why you were dubbed a racist and a hate monger: Thanx to whoever posted a bunch of RIDICULOUS imperialist-jew-generated propaganda pics in an attempt to keep the lie alive. Those pics were all doctored or presented completely out of context. Gimme a break If you don't want to get labeled, don't make racist, hate generated remarks.
You're dubbing the comment racist because you've been programmed to think that any time someone points out the Imperialist smokescreen tactics employed by the poor helpless innocent jews, they are a racist. This was the Original POINT of my thread. To stop people from reacting to this idea the way you JUST did.
Validation Boy Why don't you take your disgusting slurs to the slimy gutter where they belong.Or better still go and live in Iran with your equally disgusting mate Mahmoud Ahmadinejad.I am sure he would make you very welcome.
You can think I have been brainwashed, I will think that you are a racist. If your intention was to stop people from thinking you are a racist, you are not communicating well.
Fear is the smokescreen behind which all of your cluttered minds blindly suffocate. Imperialism (incidentally currently being implemented by a group known as the "jews") is shining through in all of your statements, of which you are, by design, unaware.
Whining and insults don't change the FACTS, do they. I didn't edit anything you said. Excuses don't change the fact you hate Jews despite your claims you don't. You don't claim an entire race needs to be "cut down" and then pretend you are neither a racist nor a hater. You don't fool anyone. BTW, I am not a leftist. I am conservative through and through. You're not having much luck getting anything right, are ya.