Holocaust-denying leaflets distributed on campuses in three Australian cities

the Jews of Europe never declared war on Germany.

the Jews of Europe were not a state, had no democratically elected leaders, and therefore could not collectively be held responsible for the actions of any one or 25 Jews in Europe.

the American Jewish Congress declared a boycott of German products, which had nothing to do with 11 million Jews in Europe.

nor could this boycott be seen as a "declaration of war".

such a statement can only be interpreted as meaning the Jews of the world were at war with Germany, and therefore deserved to be treated as enemy combatants, which means death.

 

You mean the economic boycot by the Jewish Congress in North America. How many Jews in Europe were members of that group and, since when did children become members of this group and subject to mass imprisonment?

 

he is saying that the Jews of the world were enemy combatants against Germany, and deserved to be treated as enemy combatants.

 

1. Re: Your "lost" family members: You've lost any credibility via perpetrating countless, tiresome falsehoods & taunting insults.

2. For example: Show where I have ever expressed Nazi

 

While I am no expert on the subject, and cannot pretend to have any useful insights about the issues being raised regarding the Holocaust, I am certainly utterly disgusted with the idea that questioning, debating the facts, or offering a different viewpoint on a historical issue can subject someone to censure and even criminal prosecution! That is really a sad commentary on the state of affairs in this world.

That said, and to be sure, Nazi ideology was an abomination regardless of whether they used gas chambers to kill Jews they had put into concentration camps or whether the number of Jews killed were 1 million or 6 million. The crimes committed by the Nazis would be the same in my book, even if some of the details regarding those crimes were shown not to be exactly as recounted by those who were the victims of their crimes.

On the other hand, it is self-evident to me that just because a person (much less a group of people who happened to be of the same ethnicity as the victims), happens to be a victim of even the most horrendous crime, that fact doesn't entitle that person (much less the group) to have any special claims against anyone else but those who are guilty of committing those crimes in the first place. Nor is it appropriate, 60 years after the events at issue, in a world were those who perpetuated the crimes have been long vanquished, to pretend that there is a greater danger of recurrence of those crimes against the Jews than there is having similar crimes perpetuated against another group which is being actively despised as much if not more than the Jews were back then.

What makes it all the more aggravating for me is when some of those who seem to be the most interested in keeping the memory of the Holocaust alive, seem to think that the lesson to be learned from it is "never again for the Jews" instead of "never again" period and, consequently, promote attitudes of prejudice and hatred towards another group of people even while keeping the memory of the Holocaust alive. Even if that attitude is a bit more understandable if your are Jewish (and to their credit, many of the most outspoken critics of Israel and most articulate critics of Zionism are Jews), it is truly bizarre among non-Jewish supporters of Israel. In fact, it is just unfathomable to me!

 

Funny how the left wants to prosecute and throw people in jail for deigning man made global warming
but when it come to holocaust denial wait a minute we have freedom of speech they have the right to deny the holocaust

 

We know it happened because the Nazis lost. All they needed was another Army Group, in reserve.

 

POWs were not imprisoned slave labor. Or don't you know the difference.

The primary objective of the slave labor camps was PRODUCTION. Offering up a bit of human diversion to the slaves, providing them with a bit of a mental/emotional escape from their plight is a proven "management" technique.

There wasn't any beer or movies on the way to the gas chambers.

 

This was just posted to Bledson in response to him attacking Grau's credibility...

Now go look at what he came back with and can someone tell me how to switch my board name to TheProhet lol?


[MENTION=55255]Jonsa[/MENTION], did you plagiarize on purpose or do you not get the concept? And project much?

 

A careful, objective & informed analysis of the "6 Million Jews killed" figure just doesn't add up considering 150,000 Jews served in Germany’s SS, Prision Guards & in other branches of Germany’s Military.[1]

Additionally, Germany didn't have the Resources or the Manpower to fight a 3 front War AND transport, guard, feed and then exterminate "millions" of people.

Typhus did.

Virtually all German Internment Camp casualties were a result of Typhus which spiraled upwards in the final years of WW 2 when Allied bombers destroyed civilian transportation lines.

14,000 Inmates died from Typhus in Belsen AFTER being liberated by the British.

The Holocaust Industry is a Multi-Billion Dollar, For-Profit, International Industry whose jet setting, millionaire CEOs receive 6 figure salaries not counting "percs". Thousands of "Holocaust survivors" have been convicted of blatant & outrageous fraud only in the last 5 years as claiming to be a "Holocaust® survivor" remains the only crime one can commit with impunity:

“Allegations of Fake Holocaust Claims Just Keep Growing”
http://forward.com/articles/138473/allegations-of-fake-holocaust-claims-just-keep-gro/#ixzz3NUjH4LEg

_ _ _ _

The far more reputable, non Profit Red Cross numbers (while not exact) conflicts with that of a self serving & disreputable "Holocaust Industry"

EXCERPT International Committee of the Red Cross Records:
The International Red Cross was stationed in all German labour, internment, concentration and prison camps throughout World War Two.

The Red Cross were never given access to any Russian camps before, during or after World War Two.

At his trials in Canada, during the 1980s and 1990s, Professor Ernst Zundel finally got the Red Cross to release their records from the German camps despite strong Israeli objections.

The(*) Red Cross records seem to suggest that there were no gas chambers, and a total of 271,301 died during World War Two in these camps, mostly from typhus.

In a letter to the US State Department dated November 22nd 1944 The Red Cross, who were stationed in all the camps, stated : “We have not been able to discover any trace of installations for exterminating civilian prisoners.”CONTINUED




While "6 Million" is an easy number to remember and Market, it is grossly inflated by any objective analysis.

Please consider:

“The Nazi's Real Plans for the Recreation of Israel”
http://archive.org/stream/TheNaziPl...CreationOfIsrael-RevealedInDocuments_djvu.txt
EXCERPT “
“ONLY 4.5 MILLION JEWS UNDER NAZI CONTROL

The point of this is that of the 6.7 million Jews estimated by the Nazis themselves to be in the
category "B" countries; almost none actually fell into Nazi hands.

The category 'A" country figure of 4.5 million Jews can therefore be taken as the most
reliable estimate of the number of Jews who actually fell into Nazi hands, give or take a few
hundred thousand.

4.3 MILLION JEWS CLAIM COMPENSATION FROM POST WAR GERMAN
GOVERNMENT

And this is where the figures get interesting: this figure of 4,536,500 Jews is important when it is
considered that, until the end of 1987, some 4,384,138 individual claims for compensation had
been made by Holocaust survivors against the post war German government. (This figure is
provided by the German government itself on its official website,
http://www.bundesregierung.de/en/dokumente/-, 10001 .14155/Artikel/dokument.htm .

This means, by the Nazis' own reckoning, that of the estimated 4.5 million Jews directly
under their control in 1942, at least 4.3 million had claimed compensation from the
German government for persecution by 1987.

These figures by themselves speak volumes about the true number of Jewish casualties during
the war. “CONTINUED

_ _ _ _

Pre & Post War Census figures show no missing "6 Million" Jews:

American Jewish Committee Bureau of the Synagogue Council, 1939 -- 15,600,000


VS

Statistical Handbook of Council of Churches USA 1951 -- 15,300,000


_ _ _

Finally, if the "Marketing division" of "The Holocaust® Industry" has nothing to hide, why is it so desperate to criminalize, imprison & slander anyone who who honestly questions their "Story"


"The Truth does not abhor the honest sunlight of honest examination while a fragile Lie demands the darkness provided by censorship & repressive laws against 'Free Speech""






[1] “Hitler’s Jewish Army”
http://counterpsyops.com/2013/02/14/150-000-jews-in-hitlers-army/
EXCERPT “Thousands of men of Jewish descent and hundreds of what the Nazis called ‘full Jews’ served in the German military with Adolf Hitler’s knowledge and approval.
In approximately 20 cases, Jewish soldiers in the Nazi army were awarded(*)Germany’s highest military honor, the Knight’s Cross.

Jews also served in the Nazi police and security forces as ghetto police(Ordnungdienst)(*)and concentration camp guards(*)(kapos).
So what happens to the claim that Hitler sought to exterminate all Jews, when he allowed some of them to join in his struggle against Bolshevism and International finance capitalism?

“If the Jews were permitted to serve in Hitler’s armed forces then there could not have been a Holocaust.”CONTINUED

 

Grau: ""Once again: show where Isaid the IRC was lying.""

So you agree the IRC spoke the truth when they made this statement:

""""The ICRC in WW II: The Holocaust
24-01-2014

27 January is the anniversary of the liberation of Auschwitz in 1945. For the ICRC, it also marks a failure, the failure to help and protect the millions of people who were exterminated in the death camps. The ICRC has publicly expressed its regret regarding its impotence and the mistakes it made in dealing with Nazi persecution and genocide.""

Grau: ""in Hitler’s armed forces then there could not have been a Holocaust.”""

That might be true if it were Jews galore serving in the Nazi military but as you are well aware only those with half Aryan blood served thus no Jews there Those Jews sent to extermination camps were considered full Jews not mislings.

 

Who fact checked it?

The facts are in the documentary for your eyes to see.

 

THREAD UPDATE:

All forensic evidence posted supports the revisionists' claims and NONE has been posted by those wishing to support the official narrative.

 

MYTHICAL ' GAS CHAMBERS', AGAIN"

There were no independent reports of "Gas Chambers" as has been repeatedly proven by trustworthy Posts & honest sources.


"Holocaust Or Holohoax?"
https://cigpapers.wordpress.com/2013/11/16/holocaust-or-holohoax-21-amazing-facts/

EXCERPT ""Western Allies Never Liberated Any Death Camps With Gas Chambers":

None of the Western Allies ( Britain, Canada, USA, Australia, France etc. ) liberated any camps that had gas chambers, or other systems of mass murder in them. All the alleged death camps with gas chambers were liberated by the Russians. Consequently any alleged evidence of death camps and/or gas chambers was forthcoming solely from Soviet Russia. The Western Allies liberated a total of 12 main camps and the Soviet Russians 8 main camps.
Western Allies never liberated or inspected any death camps or gas chambers."CONTINUED

 

Grau:

""
The(*) Red Cross records seem to suggest that there were no gas chambers, and a total of 271,301 died during World War Two in these camps, mostly from typhus.

In a letter to the US State Department dated November 22nd 1944 The Red Cross, who were stationed in all the camps, stated : “We have not been able to discover any trace of installations for exterminating civilian prisoners.”CONTINUED""

As the IRC stated they saw no evidence because they were not permitted into extrrmination camps.

""
""The ICRC in WW II: The Holocaust
24-01-2014

27 January is the anniversary of the liberation of Auschwitz in 1945. For the ICRC, it also marks a failure, the failure to help and protect the millions of people who were exterminated in the death camps. The ICRC has publicly expressed its regret regarding its impotence and the mistakes it made in dealing with Nazi persecution and genocide.


-Read also:

Dialogue with the past: the ICRC and the Nazi death camps - François Bugnion, the ICRC's Director for International Law and Cooperation within the Movement, reflects* on the organization's failure to react vigorously to the persecution of Jews by the Third Reich.
Commemorating the liberation of Auschwitz - 27 January 2005 - Auschwitz, which represents the greatest failure in the ICRC's history,elegate, Dr. Maurice Rossel, went to Theresienstadt. His visit was carefully orchestrated. He walked through the ghetto under the escort of SS officers, but he did not have the opportunity to talk with the Jewish people there, nor to get inside the fortress. Two representatives of the Danish government also took part in the visit.

On 27 September 1944, Dr Rossel went to Auschwitz. There he spoke to the commander of the camp, but he was not authorized to go inside it.""


https://www.icrc.org/eng/resources/d...ste-020205.htm

 

Interesting...

There were three important pieces written after the war that must be considered in this discussion.

General Eisenhower's, Crusade in Europe, published in 1948

Winston Churchill's, The Second World War, which was 1000s of pages and had to be published in 6 volumes from 1948-1954, and

General de Gaulle's, Mémoires de guerre, published in 3 volumes from 1954-1959.

In all of that you will find not one mention of Nazi gas chambers.

Add to that, that in 100s of pages now posted on this subject, not a shred of forensic evidence has been posted to support the claims of gas chambers being used on Jews.

 

So we need to verify the contentions in your video? Sorry, doesn 't work that way. If you wish I shall post vids from movies such as Schindlers list, Ann Frank, Denial and call them documentaries as well if you insist in calling something non peer reviewed factaul and a documentary.

 

THREAD UPDATE TO THREAD UPDATE

Some posters are in serious denial.

 

can't even spell my last name right even though it's right in front of you!

Golly it's hard to take you serious when you can't even debate without making errors like that.

 

Those movies are all easy to refute.

Schindler's list is based on the book "Schindler's Ark", which won the booker prize for "best fiction" back in the 80's.

Anne Frank's diary is forged, since a lot of text is written with a ballpoint pen, which they didn't have yet in the times of WW II.

Denial is just another propaganda movie coming out of Ziowood.

 

Of course there aren't any "independent" sources, because in the denialist fantasy, nobody was "independent".

I mean Eichmann, Suchomel, Hoess, and the thousands of other nazi's put on trial were all tortured to obtain their open court testimony and confessions.


You guys never cease to amaze.

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How marvelously irrelevant this is. typical, but completely irrelevant.

 

Correct but, yours is not listed anywhere so is not a source or proof of anything. A waste of time.

 

How is that irrelevant?

This is about holocaust denial, right? Are you denying the first holocaust of 64 million Jewish children?

 

It's not listed since all media are controlled.

The only thing we've got left is the internet, and that's where you can find the truth.

Better go watch it... or do you also pass a meal if you haven't even tasted it yet?

 

If it has no review from an accredited authority it is just an opinion of whomever made it. Worthless as proof of anything.