Holy sites contraversies

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  1. BuckNaked

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    Actually Hat it was "you" who said atheists would say they shouldn't have them. All I said was they might be right, and if there is no God, then they would be right to make that assertion.
     
     
    Organized religion simply seems to stir up more animosity than is or should be necessary. If it's such a holy place to God then maybe everybody ought to stay the f(*)(*)(*) off of it before they screw it up!
     
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    Christians had a fair history of that too. They really liked building churches over "pagan" holy sites. All expansionist religions do this; every Abrahamic religion will do this if given half an opportunity.
     
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    More than enough... It isn't about quantity, but quality... :mrgreen:
     
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    Is there a quota??
     
  5. WanRen

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    When Christian-Rome was in control of Jerusalem they didn't build a church on top of the Solomon temple. When England was ruling India, Anglican Christianity did not attempt to build churches on HIndu or Muslim sites.

    Majority of people who are speaking out against Islam are not Americans or Westerners but mostly Middle Eastern people, Arabs who are none Muslims are now revealing to the world that many parts of the Middle East such as Egpyt, Syria, Lebanon, Palestine, and parts of Saudi Arabia once had a strong Christian history, tradition and heritage. And still none Muslim Arabs would know because their ancestors and they themselves had live with Muslims for thousands of years and they know what real Islam is all about.

    That is why Muslim governments are very restrictive because they don't want Muslims to know the whole truth.

    The none Arab Muslims understand the Quran very well because they are arabic and they want to take their country back from islam.

    [ame="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=g94gORMQJ-I"]YouTube - Walid Shoebat Ex Islamist Speaks against Islam[/ame]

    [ame="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=P4Ju48-huek"]YouTube - Muhammad bowed down and prayed to the Moon Gods and was possessed by Satan.[/ame]

    [ame="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xqF3mkJ8k_Y"]YouTube - Lebanese Journalist Calls for Arab Introspection[/ame]
     
  6. WanRen

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    So what??

    Angkor Wat in Cambodia and Wat Phou in southern Laos were originally Hindu temples from the old Angkorian empire. When Theravada Buddhism spread to those regions 700-800 years ago, they became Buddhist temples..
     
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    Good point. Even here in the United States, many Indian burial sites have had cities built over them with absolutely no regard to the American Indian beliefs and or religious/cultural heritage.
     
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    Basically all this nonsense, is just more evidence that religion is full of hatred, bigotry, ignorance, superstition and nonsense.
     
  11. WanRen

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    Wrong, they corrupted it just like they corrupted the Bible and corrupted Jesus Christ spirit by claiming He is not God, they made sure of it by building Mosques on top, others they convert it to Mosques totally desecrating the Holy sites of the patriachs, Islam have a different patriarchs from Christianity and Judaism.
     
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    What is up with you reviving old threads?
     
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    You should investigate the accuracy of your claim.. Muslims have exactly the same patriarch as the Torah and the Bible.. Adam, Abraham, Moses, Noah, Mary.. the prophets..

    And, you might consider that the Jews believe that Christians corrupted the Torah... and they also do NOT believe Jesus was the Son of God.

    The Temple Mount was NOT desecrated by Muslims. It was destroyed in the Jewish civil war with the Romans and abandoned for 500 years.

    The Mosque that has been on the site for 1300 years was built to honor the God of Abraham.

    Hatred and ignorance make us blind.
     
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    The Quran is an after the fact plagiarized work created to push the political and military agenda of a pedophile, rapist mass murderer.. It's the 1400 years old version of Mein Kampf...

    Allah means god just as Zeus is also a god. Both aren't the abrahamic god who has a name, YHWH. Both the Jews and the Christian know god's name. The muslim ground kisser don't. They are following another god, a pagan one. They just borrowed YHWH story because they thought it would make it easier for converting those who are of the true abrahamic faith.
     
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    OK, that dome has been sitting on the stupid 'hill' for almost 1400 yrs.

    WW3 will ignite if the bigots try to tear that one down.


    clear enough


    ie..... 'tel megiddo' means what?
     
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    sure there are

    And i hope each wipe theirs
     
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    Yes..in Allah is God in Arabic.. Every language has a word for God.. Consider Spanish, Italian, German and English for example.

    Mohammed wasn't a mass murderer , rapist or pedophile.... You weaken your position with such obvious lies.
     
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    For more than 30 years Mohammed did not took the time out to learn to read and write but he found time to have many wives including under age, that clearly speak a lot about Mohammed and his Islam.
     
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    Do you think Abraham or Noah could read? LOLOL..

    How many wives and concubines did Jacob have..
     
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    Look who's talking about lying...

    Every languages have a word for god but that doesn't mean that they are talking about the same god stupid.

    The abrahamic god has a name. His name is YHWH. This name is in the torah and in the bible. Where is it in the quran? Nowhere!

    They call their god Allah which just mean "a god".

    Islam is a sham and Muhammad is a nine year old girl rapist and pedophile. Example for all the gulf states pervert that still practice it.
     
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    I take it that you deny Abraham was the father of the Arabs too.
     
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    Nope. And I believe the descendant if ishmael did follow the god of abraham at first, They lost their way and reverted to paganism. Muhammad (pedophile, rapist, killer, may he burn in hell) invented a monotheistic pagan religion modeled on a perverted version of the jewish and christian faith. But that religion is one based on conquest and submission instead of love and compassion.
     
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    Abraham also had sons with Keturah.. his arab wife... and all were circumcised.

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    My brother was circumcised and he was atheist...

    Such rituals over time become more a part of tradition than of religion, else the christian would also circumcise themselves They do in some part of the world).

    Thing is, the covenant was with Isaac and HIS descendant, not with Abraham's.

    The Arabs lost their faith in YHWH over time, to be replaced by the corrupted belief in Islam.
     
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    Your brother was circumcised by Abraham?

    I think that your argument is very shabby.. No one should be so defensive about their religion.
     

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