Hopeful trend for GOP

No, it just means you were uninformed about it.

Kurds started helping US fight ISIS years before Trump, so it had nothing to do with Trump. McCain visited them in person in 2013. Everyone knew about it, and everyone talked about it. Well, not you, you just woke up in 2020 and realized it happened. Trump and his apologists think EVERYHTING revolves around him, but that only shows how naive they are.

Heck, he thought Covid was all about him. "Covid, covid, covid....you'll never hear it again after the elections".

 

Which one of these statements seems out of character with the other two?

Jeez, from your first two quotes, I would have guessed that YOU rejected the precept that the Church was all about love.

And for the sake of accuracy regarding your claims about me, I was not trying to, "justify," SOCIALISM, I was pointing out the fact that government assistance to the indigent has been an English tradition, in law, since 1601, and went along to the American colonies, as well.

And prominent among those colonists who declared their Independence & later framed our country's government, were numerous freemasons (& I'm sure members of other fraternal orders, as well), which were the forerunners of modern unions. So I was contending that unions were PRO-WORKER (as are YOU, going by your OP), and NOT strictly Socialist. Unless you're contending that George Washington & a bunch of his crew were also, "socialist."

I guess you must have not been clear about that? The following was the part I left out of the middle of your 1st post, at top:

I quote it now because, considering your oft repeated reverence for the intent of our FOUNDERS, combined with your definitive separating of FAITH from Religion (as did our Founders), to now make the argument that it was their intent for the Churches to take full responsibility for those of insufficient means, & that anyone defending unions is really advocating socialism, seems like YOU are merely trying to support what you conclude is right OUTSIDE OF THE INTENTS, PRACTICES, & BELIEFS OF THE FOUNDERS.

 

So McCain promised the Kurds what...that we would protect them from all of their enemies? Give them a homeland? And since Obama was President at that time, not McCain, what was the Obama foreign policy towards the Kurds? What promise did he make and when did we have a national discussion on it like we did in Iraq?

 

You and I do not see life through the same lens. When you think of Church you seem to think of a structure with members that join. I see Church as the Embodiment of Christ that transcends all those structures. You talk about Free Masons and certain fraternal orders.....they were comprised of "free men" with similar values, moral values.
Free Masons. Sons of Liberty. George Washington exemplified the character of those men. He practiced the discipline of virtuous living every day. The government they founded was not meant for those who embrace "moral relativity" or "situational ethics". Could you imagine their response if they knew the United States borrowed money to give to Pakistan so they could study"gender verification"? That is how far we have come. Our own education system won't define male or female. Now the government is running small businesses in the ground using China Virus as their reason while the Big Corporate owned Box stores prosper. That is how they want it. It makes the consolidation of power far easier. The second amendment will have to be chiseled away for that to happen. First through taxation, then buyouts, then confiscation. Socialism is the "change" that Chuck Schumer talks about when he refers to the Georgia election.
Def, I think you have your feet in two worlds. I have my feet in one and I don't want any part of the second one!

 

Nope. Never.
He may take over OAN or Newmaxx and run it his way. But not to help. Just to keep himself in spotlight.

 

Yes. All corporations were doing the same.
Have you ever read about the labor fights of the late 19th and 20th century?
The prelude to unions?

 

Why "help".

Do you see "help" in the quote

"He would for sweet, cold revenge
if not more altruistic reasons

Cold?
Revenge is a dish
best served cold."

 

Thank you for that link. I had not known that Carter was so pro Palestinian. I still admire him. I am glad I voted for him in 1976 and 1980.

I do not consider the West Bank, the Golan Heights, or even Gaza to be Palestinian territory, I consider them to be the legitimate spoils of a just war. I wish that after Israel's victory in the 1967 Six Day War the non Christian Palestinians had been deported, like Germans were from Prussia after World War II. The land Israel conquered should have been formally annexed, and settled with Jews. The Arabs should have been told that if they threatened Israel with annihilation again they would lose more land.

 

of Course I have, Collective warfare. Think I'd just leave and go farm.

 

Promise? We agreed to become allies and fight against ISIS together, which is what we did until Trump betrayed them.

You don't cut and run and leave your allies to die on the battle field, but that is EXACTLY what Trump did.

 

This new neo-con Democratic Party is going to be entertaining to watch. I'll look forward to your future posts on fighting both the Syrian Government and our NATO allies Turkey (who are enemies), to protect the Kurds!

May your son be draft age.

 

Dou mean we can expect another round of Republicans slapping a yellow ribbon decal on their SUV's?

 

I'm sure it will only be the Republicans who do that.

 

Fake News. Our Representatives look out for OUR sovereignty and THEIR Representatives look out for THEIR sovereignty. We do not vote for representatives who put the interests of other nations ahead of ours. This is a point of both amazing Coherence and Cohesion within the GOP base.

Fake News. 2020 Is The Year NeverTrump Finally Admitted They’re NeverRepublican.

These crusading self-righteous scolds were supposed to save the GOP from Donald Trump but instead they exposed themselves as financial opportunists capitalizing on media-fomented Trump Derangement Syndrome for personal profit.

After 85 years of work to restore a Constitutionalist Judiciary, Trump kept his vows by filling the lower courts with textualists and first putting two conservative jurors on the high court and then Amy Coney Barrett.

Lincoln Project Co-Founder Steve Schmidt announced that he is a registered Democrat, joining nearly every other co-founder of the project including George Conway, Jennifer Horn, Ron Steslow Reed Galen and Rick Wilson.

You are welcome to them, they will have no presence in the GOP primaries. All in all the trends are very positive for the GOP and really suck for the Democrats. I'm sure that Democrats will put $2,000 stimulus for COVID hit Americans over their love for Big Corporate Social Media censorship. We are all looking forward to the recorded vote. It's time to see who works for the Big Corporate Censorious Social Media and who works for The American People.

Another very hopeful trend for the GOP!

 

You have chosen your name here well, Fake News. I said almost nothing what you are attributing to me, above.

 

I included the link: 2020 Is The Year NeverTrump Finally Admitted They’re NeverRepublican. In response to your claim that NeverTrump would be a potent force in the 2024 primaries. And then per the posting regulations we all agree to follow here, used the quote function when quoting the article.

 

It certainly reads as though it's all attributed to me. Anyway, the GOP is imploding ideologically and it is not clear to me that it will survive as a national party. Trump has been nothing but a destructive force in our national life, and if he continues to try to keep the country in uproar in the next 4 years, it will only benefit the Democrats. Without the votes of the Nevertrumpers, Biden blew you out of the water; and it's not going to be any better for you in 4 years. So I say bring it on. Of course, at the same time Trump's running for president he's going to have to fight like mad to keep out jail; and that will mean that the infighting amongst Republicans will hit fever pitch. I predict that Harris will become President in a walk.

 

~ Not in today's Democrat Party. There are actually a few who voted for Joe B -- believe it or not ! He ain't called " Beijing " Biden for nothing .

 

Palestine: Peace Not Apartheid[1] is a New York Times Best Seller book written by Jimmy Carter, 39th President of the United States (1977–1981) and laureate of the 2002 Nobel Peace Prize. It was published by Simon & Schuster in November 2006.[2]...

To bring an end to what he calls "this continuing tragedy", in Chapter 17 ("Summary"), Carter calls for a revitalization of the peace process based on the following three "key requirements":

a. The security of Israel must be guaranteed ...
b. The internal debate within Israel must be resolved in order to define Israel's permanent legal boundary ...

c. The sovereignty of all Middle East nations and sanctity of international borders must be honored ...[3]
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Palestine:_Peace_Not_Apartheid

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Carter does not hate the Jews. Unfortunately, he is deluded enough to think there can be peace between Israel and the Palestinians. I disagree. The Charter of Hamas remains committed to the destruction of Israel.

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Hamas in 2017: The document in full
Hamas explains general principles and objectives in 42-article document

Palestine is a land that was seized by a racist, anti-human and colonial Zionist project that was founded on a false promise (the Balfour Declaration), on recognition of a usurping entity and on imposing a fait accompli by force.

Palestine symbolises the resistance that shall continue until liberation is accomplished, until the return is fulfilled and until a fully sovereign state is established with Jerusalem as its capital...

2. Palestine, which extends from the River Jordan in the east to the Mediterranean in the west and from Ras al-Naqurah in the north to Umm al-Rashrash in the south, is an integral territorial unit. It is the land and the home of the Palestinian people...

Within Palestine there exists Jerusalem, whose precincts are blessed by Allah. Palestine is the Holy Land, which Allah has blessed for humanity. It is the Muslims’ first Qiblah and the destination of the journey performed at night by Prophet Muhammad, peace be upon him. It is the location from where he ascended to the upper heavens...

10. Jerusalem is the capital of Palestine...Not one stone of Jerusalem can be surrendered or relinquished. The measures undertaken by the occupiers in Jerusalem, such as Judaisation, settlement building, and establishing facts on the ground are fundamentally null and void...

12. The Palestinian cause in its essence is a cause of an occupied land and a displaced people. The right of the Palestinian refugees and the displaced to return to their homes from which they were banished or were banned from returning to – whether in the lands occupied in 1948 or in 1967 (that is the whole of Palestine), is a natural right, both individual and collective...

Compensation to the Palestinian refugees for the harm they have suffered as a consequence of banishing them and occupying their land is an absolute right that goes hand in hand with their right to return. They are to receive compensation upon their return and this does not negate or diminish their right to return...

14. The Zionist project is a racist, aggressive, colonial and expansionist project based on seizing the properties of others; it is hostile to the Palestinian people and to their aspiration for freedom, liberation, return and self-determination...

18. The following are considered null and void: the Balfour Declaration, the British Mandate Document, the UN Palestine Partition Resolution, and whatever resolutions and measures that derive from them or are similar to them. The establishment of “Israel” is entirely illegal...

19. There shall be no recognition of the legitimacy of the Zionist entity...

20. Hamas believes that no part of the land of Palestine shall be compromised or conceded, irrespective of the causes, the circumstances and the pressures and no matter how long the occupation lasts. Hamas rejects any alternative to the full and complete liberation of Palestine, from the river to the sea...

21. Hamas affirms that the Oslo Accords and their addenda contravene the governing rules of international law in that they generate commitments that violate the inalienable rights of the Palestinian people. Therefore, the Movement rejects these agreements and all that flows from them...

Resistance and jihad for the liberation of Palestine will remain a legitimate right, a duty and an honour for all the sons and daughters of our people and our Ummah...

27. A real state of Palestine is a state that has been liberated. There is no alternative to a fully sovereign Palestinian State on the entire national Palestinian soil, with Jerusalem as its capital...

https://www.middleeasteye.net/news/hamas-2017-document-full

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This charter is as preposterous as a demand by Nazi Germany would have been if it had been issued after the Soviet occupation of Berlin that the Soviet Union surrender unconditionally to the Third Reich. There is no acceptance of Israel's right to exist in any form. Those who maintain that there can be peace between Israel and the Palestinians believe something for which there is no evidence at all. The Palestinians have been defeated again, and again, and again. Nevertheless, they think they can demand the destruction of Israel. They think they can lose wars and benefit from it.

 

Nope. Link provided. All you have to do is click it to see that the quotes are quotes as required by our board rules. But, your apology for claiming I deliberately misquoted you is graciously accepted.

Fake news. The base has the same struggles controlling the party leadership that any party has, but, we wear the pants in the GOP, whereas the Dems deliberately rigged both 2016 and 2020 in order to deny the primary voters choice, Bernie, the election.

Fake News.

Republicans to Have Full Control of 24 States, Democrats 15

In 2021, Republicans will have full control of the legislative and executive branch in 24 states.
Democrats will have full control of the legislative and executive branch in 15 states.

Population of the 24 fully R-controlled states: 134,766,812
Population of the 15 fully D-controlled states: 120,326,393

Republicans have full control of the legislative branch in 31 states.
Democrats have full control of the legislative branch in 18 states.

Population of the 31 fully R-controlled legislature states: 185,895,957
Population of the 18 fully D-controlled legislature states: 133,888,565

https://web.education.wisc.edu/nwhi...y-control-in-congress-and-state-legislatures/

Dems remain in the grips 40 years of decline. Your concern trolling is a just a bit misplaced.

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The Republicans mirror the Dems 40 years of overall decline with 40 years of ascendency, extending deep into the State Legislatures.

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If this keeps up, it won't be long before Republicans are taking over Democrats failing cities and returning them to vibrant prosperity.

Fake News. What A Rich Record Of Prosperity Enjoyed During The Trump Presidency:

Amid the death, destruction and dissension of the Chinese Pandemic, Trump's steady hand on the tiller deftly guided his beloved nation through stormy seas safely to the shores of 2021.

The nation did dip into recession but avoided the forecasted depression because of the Trumpian Boom that was powering the unparalleled wage gains of the Median American Worker that makes this Great Nation, Great!

U.S. Census Bureau, Real Median Household Income in the United States [MEHOINUSA672N], retrieved from FRED, Federal Reserve Bank of St. Louis; https://fred.stlouisfed.org/series/MEHOINUSA672N, December 31, 2020.

Trump has handed Biden a banquet set for success, all Joe has to do is not screw it up.

Amid death and destruction in 2020 it only made us stronger.

I don't expect him to run again. He did a great job, he has a great life to return to, and hopefully many great years left to enjoy them. We were lucky to have him and deeply appreciate the great work he did.

I see no evidence of that.

She's a terrible candidate, a liar and a fraud. Google what a dishonest prosecutor she was while she held the top prosecutor spot in San Francisco and State of CA. Her conduct wasn't just corrupt, but shockingly so.

California Prosecutor Falsifies Transcript of Confession ...
https://observer.com/2015/03/california-prosecutor-falsifies-transcript-of-confession/
Undaunted by the criminal conduct of a state prosecutor, or the district court's opinion, Ms. Harris appealed the decision dismissing the indictment. According to the California attorney general, only abject physical brutality would warrant a finding of prosecutorial misconduct and the dismissal of an indictment. Fortunately for all of us—and the Constitution—she lost again.

And it gets worse.

Unethical conduct plagues legal career of Kamala Harris ...
https://miscellanynews.org/2019/02/...onduct-plagues-legal-career-of-kamala-harris/
However, perhaps Harris' most egregious example of immoral conduct happened in 2014. A federal judge ordered that all non-violent second-strike offenders be eligible for parole in California in an action against constitutional prison crowding. Kamala Harris, then the Attorney General of California, disagreed with the decision.

Unethical Dirty Prosecutor.​

She is an evil vile woman, and it's all documented in the record of the Court.

She's a crook that likes to abuse her power.

Kamala - Advocate for keeping folks in prison for Slave Labor. Her family were big Slave Plantation Owners in the Caribbean, it looks like the apple didn't fall far from the tree.

When you actively cover up police misconduct, try to keep a man who you know is innocent in prison and refuse to release nonviolent offenders because you need their involuntary labor, you are an unacceptable choice for high office. But, that shouldn't be a problem as not even Democrat voters find her attractive. She blew $25M running for the Democrat nomination and had to drop out before Iowa, she didn't manage to secure a single delegate.

She won't improve with age. Voters catch on to who and what she is pretty quickly. All in all great trends for the GOP, things just keep getting and better every day!

 

We'll have to agree to disagree where Carter is concerned. If he isn't a Jew Hater he certainly would need to change his behavior to prove it.

 

So locking up criminals is now immoral?

Something weird happened in the past few years. People who used to consider themselves conservatives turned into bleeding heart.........liberals. I think its "follow the leader" mentality where people feel compelled to imitate their leader. ​

 

What makes you say he hates Jews? Accusing people of hatred is an old liberal trick, which has recently been embraced by Trump supporters as well.

 

For me the sine qua non of a person's opinion about Israel is, "The security of Israel must be guaranteed." Carter believes that.

On other websites I come into contact with real Jew haters. They do not sound like Carter. I argue with them a lot. I like to anger them by pointing out how intelligent most Jews are, and how prosperous they are as a result. That angers them because I praise what they resent about Jews. Antisemitism has been called, "The socialism of fools." It combines the left wing politics of envy, and right wing racial and ethnic bigotry. I admire Jews, respect Judaism, and love Israel. My support for Israel is virtually unconditional.