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Why?

 

Why does the second amendment specifically mention the right of the people? The same people as it in the first amendment, and every other amendment, read as the individual rather than the collective.

The above argument being presented on the part of yourself is one of utter nonsense. It is nonsense to believe the founding fathers of the united states would draft the first amendment to speak of a right held by the individual people, then immediately switch course with the second amendment to speak of a right of the collective to serve in a well-regulated militia under government control, and then once again immediately switch course in the subsequent amendments to go back to speaking of rights held by the individual people.

Once again. Cite the legal, historical, and constitutional precedent that shows the Heller ruling is wrong, and the second amendment does not mean that the united state supreme court held it means. Show where it was held the second amendment applied to serving in the militia and nothing else. Show the historical cases where individuals have been charged and convicted of the use of a firearm outside of official militia duties.

 

If your point is that we currently don't have much of a need for a citizen militia, you'd be correct.
Now, perhaps you can/should address the next part of the 2nd Amendment, which is,
"being necessary to the security of a free state"
Concentrate on that one now and we'll discuss/debate it.
After that, we can discuss the third part, which is,
"The right of the people to keep and bare arms".

 

There are no perfect choices in life. Only compromises that minimize negative outcomes.

Millions of individual choices produce fewer negative outcomes than few centrally commanded choices.

On the subject of guns you can't make technology that exists not exist anymore. I have the tools in my basement to make one. I work at a trade school with machinery that I could manufacture them with easily.

In your quest to eliminate guns, are you going to erase my mind?

 

To be equipped when a militia is called for.
Home protection/self defense.
Hunting.
Competition shooting sports.
Varmint control.
Plinking.
Scaring libs and progs by just them KNOWING one has those "scary black guns".
Etc... Etc... Etc...

Then, again, it's not a bill of NEEDS, it's a Bill of RIGHTS.

 

Yes meaning it works well. Did that escape you. Like a well regulated clock. Does right of the people meaning escape you. Does Heller escape you?

 

Over turning Obamacare IS original intent and the program was passed unconstitutionally.

 

All a governor has to do is call the unorganized militia to come in and be regulated.

The state will tell them what weapons and munitions then can have and those they can't.

 

Garden District hurricane Katrina.
The rooftops of the Asian stores during the LA riots.

I have been through hurricanes without power for three weeks and the police can't come running. But the bad guys know we are armed around here and will form a militia to protect our homes and families.

 

Oh, stop it. The Roberts court has ruled two times on its constitutionality, and it will affirm it yet again.

 

A Sheriff can call a citizen posse to assist him. We can band in our neighborhoods to protect our homes when there is an emergency and the police can't come. The militia is every able bodied citizen NOT a government organization.

 

Roberts rule it was a tax, that makes it's passage unconstitutional.

Which house of Congress passed it first?

 

Some people claim that you need to be a member of a well-regulated militia in order to possess a gun. If that is true then no one, even cops, can possess guns in America.

 

You are describing an armed mob and not a well-regulated militia.

 

No I'm calling a militia a militia and is in good working order with proper operating equipment. The militia is the citizens picking up their arms to defend themselves against invaders and marauders when the government can't protect them.

 

In the old days a militia was a Slave Patrol whose function was to keep slaves on the plantations and to kill them if they escaped or revolted.

 

That is why the governor has the power and authority to call the unorganized militia and the posse comitatus to congregate at designated places and become "well regulated."

 

That is not a militia but a vigilante mob.

 

The governor calls the national guard not a state militia. Then when they go in to protect those neighborhoods and businesses the citizens say thank you and put their guns away. That is the militia. "Well regulated" is not government control it is the quality of that necessary militia.

 

It's about protection not vigilantism, learn the different. The militia holds off the vigilante's.

 

Yet another unfounded claim, inspired by the discredited individual Carl Bogus, holding that the second amendment was purely about keeping slaves in check and promoting racism.

 

Just like the founders of this country were. We keep our guns for the eventuality that the government ceases to represent our interests. Pass all the gun grabbing laws you want, you will never get them short of bloodshed. That is our thin red line.

 

These people are either completely ignorant of the subject material or choose to make statements they know are false.

 

So now that you have learned the definitions explain how individuals owning guns constitutes a well regulated militia.

 

So now the Constitution is false?