House Democrats to hold hearings on Stormy Daniels hush-money case

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  1. hampton86

    hampton86 Well-Known Member

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    They have a check with bankruptcy donnie's signature on it.

    Kleenex?
     
  2. struth

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    Daniels has no such thing....Cohen certainly does, he was his attorney and paid by him
     
  3. hampton86

    hampton86 Well-Known Member

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    imm, yeah Cohen has it. Proof that donnie lied when he said he had nothing to with it, and proof he committed a felony campaign finance breach. You dont honestly believe routing it through his atty alleviated him from the crime, do you

    That's priceless!
     
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    Of course he has a check....he was his lawyer, he didn't work for free.

    What crime? NDAs aren't illegal for one, and two payig your attorney isn't a crime. The reality is, no NDA was actually executed, and Cohen made the payment himself, without there actually being a contract done, then asked to be refunded.
     
  5. Bluesguy

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    I have cited the law and what it means, lack of rebutal noted.
     
  6. Bluesguy

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    There was none it was legal and would be a reporting violation anyway. Someone in the Obama campaign decided how to report the money, they violated the reporting law. Pay a fine and it's over.
     
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    Cohen was on a retainer to handle such legal matters, was reimbursed by Trump and it was not solely for the benefit of the election.
     
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    Wow Someone wrote a check to their lawyer how damning....
     
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    umm, yeah. It's a felony

    Sorry
     
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    Can you quote the law that says writing a check to a lawyer is a felony?
    If so i have to hire another lawyer to defend me from writing a different lawyer a check... Oh damn the new one will want to get paid to....... what to do!?!?!
     
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    Solely?
     
  12. Bluesguy

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    Obtuse?
     
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    Pretty scary to think this is logical to you. Wow.
     
  14. hampton86

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    Yeah, the law can be confusing to the elderly and those with southern educations

    I'll help where I can
     
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    This is just the Committee and Dems continuing their scrounging through alleys and garbage cans and under rocks on the off chance there MIGHT be something there they can bray about.

    Since there is nothing illegal about a candidate securing a non-disclosure agreement I guess this means knowledge of the law is no longer a requisite for the SDNY.
     
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    Yet it might very well be illegal for said candidate to get others (1 private citizen and 1 corporation) to secure those for him with payments...

    I guess I should take your interpretation of the law over the SDNY now?

    Also, get used to the fact that these hearings will not be in a courtroom setting... If the majority of the House Judiciary determines that Trumps actions here rise to the level of "HC & M", it'll likely be an article of impeachment.
     
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    Well, "it might well be illegal," but it ain't. Are you under the impression that a campaign can pay for stuff only if the candidate writes a personal check???????

    On the basis of the facts as you portrayed them, then, yes, it seems if you want a correct interpretation of the law you should listen to me and not some former attorney from the SDNY.

    I am very well used to the fact that Nadler and the Dems, and the law don't mix very well and am not shocked let alone surprised at the actions. I think it is likely that Nadler will find some pissant thing from under some rock that he will bray is HC&M; but it is highly unlikely that there will be any House inquiry into impeachment let alone articles of impeachment. For the record SCOTUS has ruled that congressional testimony has to follow the constitutional prescriptions as is done in the courtroom -- not that this will inhibit Nadler, et al in the least.
     
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    It generally will... that won't be a problem.... entitled to an attorney present, under oath, examination and cross examination, no self incrimination etc.... Nadler is not going to lose this on a testimony technicality...

    Every hearing going forward from this day now has the ability to become an impeachment inquiry or an article of impeachment, at Nadler's discretion.

    I also laugh at this snip from Salon

    SNIP
    A majority of House Democrats — 134 out of 235 — have publicly expressed support for an impeachment inquiry, including 17 out of the 24 Democratic members of the Judiciary panel.
    ENDSNIP

    https://www.salon.com/2019/09/12/ho...ays-out-rules-for-trump-impeachment-hearings/

    I have news for the 7 members who haven't "publicly expressed support" for an impeachment inquiry.... They just did today...
     

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