House intel head: 'No evidence' of Trump campaign contact with Russia

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  1. guavaball

    guavaball Well-Known Member

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    I'm reading what you post:

    There's no doubt that Spicer believes his underlings are leaking. There's no doubt that Trump is pointing fingers at Obama and the intelligence agencies, despite approving Spicer's phone investigation

    That is what led to my post about Spicer's people and the laughable theory that they were responding to both and you dismissing Obama's underlings as the source when the data obtained on Flynn was classified and before Trump even took the oath of office.

    You are dealing in conspiracy theories without a shred of evidence to prove there is more to this and the Russians with the Trump folks. No one in the intelligence community including anonymous sources is backing you.

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    You really should actually read about this and what the intelligence community is reporting. They have gone through the logs. All of the logs according to their own testimony and found nothing. Take off the tin foil hat.
     
  2. Pred

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    What are they expecting to find exactly? That Russia hacked the voting machines? A personal email from Trump to Putin asking him to hack the DNC? Video? Audio? What?


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  3. bois darc chunk

    bois darc chunk Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    You're blaming Obama people, when Spicer showed he was suspicious of the people he hired. Flynn did nothing but was fired anyway, and I'm the one with conspiracy theories? :roll: ooookay.

    When you look directly at quotes and disbelieve the person said it, I don't have anything else for ya. Have a nice day.
     
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    Has anyone heard the story of the Awan brothers who were hired by Democrats in Congress as IT techs and who had access to confidential info such as Wasserman-Shultz? They were recently fired and are under investigation
     
  5. dixon76710

    dixon76710 Well-Known Member

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    You don't have a clue. Leaks from the white house don't magically negate all the leaks from Intelligence agencies
     
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    bois darc chunk Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Actually, I have several clues, but I was not saying the leaks negate anything. The fact is, there is no proof that the leaks are coming from the intelligence agencies, at all. Spicer, himself, has shown he believes the leaks are internal to the White House. The links and quotes are in my posts, in this thread.

    Now, you may very well know the intricacies of this situation better than the reporters, the IC, and Spicer. I doubt it, but it is possible.
     
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    dixon76710 Well-Known Member

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    ??????? Just the news reports that revealed the classified information claiming that it was from un named sources in the intelligence agencies. AND considering the content of that information, of course it came from the intelligence organizations.


    That's just your strange logic leading you to ridiculous conclusions. Just because something is leaked from the whitehouse recently, doesn't mean that leaks from way back in October of last year containing classified information was also leaked from the White house. Not to mention that it would be Obamas White House, not Trump
     
  8. bois darc chunk

    bois darc chunk Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Link please on the unnamed sources in intelligence that leaked classified information… uhmmm, something other than "Trump says intelligence agency leaked classified information."

    Do you realize they would not only lose their job, but would be prosecuted for leaking classified information?

    Talking to a reporter or a member of the White House staff off the record, does not mean they are revealing or leaking classified information… just FYI.

    Seriously, Spicer knows the leaks are within. So does the State Department. Google is your friend.
     
  9. dixon76710

    dixon76710 Well-Known Member

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    Such strong opinions regarding matters you know nothing about.

    "WASHINGTON — Phone records and intercepted calls show that members of Donald J. Trump’s 2016 presidential campaign and other Trump associates had repeated contacts with senior Russian intelligence officials in the year before the election, according to four current and former American officials.

    American law enforcement and intelligence agencies intercepted the communications around the same time they were discovering evidence that Russia was trying to disrupt the presidential election by hacking into the Democratic National Committee, three of the officials said. The intelligence agencies then sought to learn whether the Trump campaign was colluding with the Russians on the hacking or other efforts to influence the election.
    https://www.nytimes.com/2017/02/14/us/politics/russia-intelligence-communications-trump.html?_r=0

    Yes, when the leaks are regarding what was discussed in Spicers meeting with his communications staff, that appear in the papers the following day, he knows the leaks are within. On the other hand, when the leaks are regarding intercepted communications between Americans and people in the Russian government, HIGHLY classified material, we all except you know that the leaks come from those who intercepted the communications.
     
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    The investigation is done, they already have the evidence, remember?

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    Investigating? I thought they had the evidence, remember?
     
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    The CIA constantly monitor foreigners phone calls in the USA, to the USA, and to other countries made from the USA. They weren't monitoring Trump campaign officials. They were monitoring Russians, and caught the campaign people, like Flynn, talking to Russians. That is perfectly legal and isn't classified, but it is part of an ongoing investigation. It also is problematic for those in the campaign, like Flynn, that had contact with Russians, especially considering the NSA, CIA, FBI, etc. are all aware that Russia meddled in the election. Once the CIA intercepts Americans involved with their Russian (or any other foreigners) in phone calls or messaging, the CIA turns over that info to the FBI. Only the FBI can investigate Americans. The CIA investigates foreigners, and not Americans. Both are allowed to share information with each other.

    If you didn't know it, the Patriot Act made it legal for the US to spy on Americans. They had every single phone call, email, and text message made for years.

    You've obviously not followed this situation closely, despite repeatedly telling me that I don't know what I am talking about. Your post shows you're not well versed on this situation. I've disregarded your rudeness and condescending comments up to now. Don't bother replying. I have nothing more to say to you on this issue.
     
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    Alot of "you were mean to my candidate so imma be mean to yours" here.

    Such childish ridiculousness.
     
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    I never claimed otherwise. I suspect you are grasping about for your next srawman to slay. AND, the CIA isn't the White house so you are making my point for me.

    Of course it is. Content of such communications collected by the CIA or FBI is classified. It reveals sources and methods of gathering intelligence from foreign countries.. There are specific laws that require the names of American citizens captured in communications with foreigners be redacted from the classified material.

    Rest of your post seems to simply be your attempt to avoid the topic of discussion. Your logic is foolish. Spicer held a private meeting with his communications staff, and a day later in the paper he sees stories about this private meeting. Of course he knows this information was leaked from within the whitehouse. And somehow, in your mind, this shows that leaks from before Trump was even President, involving classified material collected by Intelligence agencies is also leaked from the Trump whitehouse. Your reasoning makes no sense. String together a few words and make a rational argument. How do leaks from a communications staff meeting in the whitehouse indicate ANYTHING regarding leaks of information from intelligence agencies?
     
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    lol boy this seems funny now
     
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    Wow!

    The two dozen thread the Dims have going crying about this isn't enough for you? You have to bump 5 month old threads?

    F-ing hilarious.
     
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    Don't worry, nobody met with any Russians lmao
     
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    I'm surprised that Nunes could take his lips off of Trump's fat ass long enough to make a statement like this.
     
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    Yes. We're one of two nations that hold on to the Grand Jury tradition with the other one being Liberia.
     
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    What law does that break? Be specific. Cite the specific statute, and what qualifies as having violated it.

    GO!
     
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    I cant wait for year 4 of this ctrl+left lunacy. Theyll probably all commit suicide by then
     
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    It's not illegal to be a liar. Do you enjoy going out and defending these lies only to get embarrassed later?
     
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    I have not defended anything. I have mocked the pissy-pants reactions by the alt-left.

    Waaaaaaaaaaaaaaaah.............a politician lied to me Waaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaah!

    Go find a safe space.
     
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    At least you're admitting he lied to you, baby steps!
     
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    Unlike you, I am under no illusion politicians aren't liars.

    Must hurt to go thru life so gullible.
     

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