How can any American vote for this lunatic?

Discussion in 'Political Opinions & Beliefs' started by Awryly, Apr 26, 2012.

  1. Hoosier8

    Hoosier8 Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    I will go 200%.
     
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  3. Awryly

    Awryly New Member Past Donor

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    It is certainly true that Republicans need to vote for someone. However absurd.

    But that does not diminish its absurdity.
     
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    HB Surfer Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Wow! This is an amazing piece of bigotry. Do not ever... ever... ever... complain that another poster is a racist, or hyper-patriotic, or a bigot, or a misogynist... your post truly sucks. Your level of tolerance is exceedingly low.
     
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    HB Surfer Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Romney's beliefs are far less intrusive and outlandish that Barack Obama's Collective Christianity which I think is pure evil. Baptizing the dead to "save" them is a benevolent act. I do not agree with it, but I understand the LDS act and it is done out of nothing but good will.

    Basically, Barack Obama believes that he/we cannot be saved on our own. We must all be saved together. They must force their religion on others. Leftists like Barack Obama that believe in Collective salvation are authoritarian, even in their religious practice. I would rather be LDS than a Collective Christian of the Jermiah Wright persuasion.

    (note: I am not a Mormon)
     
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    I am assuming you are referring to Mitt Romney.

    There are many reasons why an American would want to vote for the "Massachusetts Moderate" most you may find appalling.

    First, some Americans consider the Republican frontrunner to be the lesser of two evils. They assume in accordance with their political bias that neoconservative policies will not hurt this nation as much Obama's policies. They will argue that Mitt Romney will deal with the deficit and debt in a more fiscally responsible manner than the President. They will argue that Mitt Romney will promote greater job growth than the President. There is empirical evidence to back up such claims.

    There is also empirical, philosophical, and other substantive evidence to back up claims that Mitt Romney could be the worse of the two evils. Mitt Romney's flip-flopper mentality, while endearing in the possession of one with a pure heart, has been quite questionable for him as a politician. He has changed his position on health care reform, abortion, among other issues. Mitt Romney's tax and spending policies were analyzed by the Committee for a Responsible Federal Budget, and it was determined he would increase the federal deficit by about $250 billion over 10 years. While not on par with the deficit the President's FY2013 budget would produce, coupled with philosophical evidence, Mitt Romney's budget is a major cause for concern.

    People tend to not understand where neoconservativism evolved from. It actually evolved from the minds of Trotskyist Jews living on the East Side of Manhattan during the 1930's, early 1940's. Many of these ideologues saw FDR's New Deal policies as common sense and admirable efforts. They also appreciated FDR's later opposition to Stalinism, a key component of Trotskyism, and his somewhat internationalist mindset, a main tenet of Trotskyism, but for the creation of a dictatorship of the proletariat, not for what neoconservatism is today.

    The early ideological movement eventually evolved to become a movement of the intellectuals and power elite. Over time, many former Trotskyists started to come into their own. Among the most notorious are Irving Kristol and Leo Strauss. These two men, along with others began to see the distortion of liberal policies to aid those less fortunate rather than everybody during the 1950's, 1960's, and 1970's as a betrayal of traditional liberal Democratic policies. Consequently, these people decided to branch off and create their own ideology, one based in Keynesian economic policies that forwarded a pro-democracy internationalist and interventionist effort. Over time, this became what is known as neoconservatism.

    For a party that states that they are conservative, you would think the Republican would have eradicated neoconservatism from the establishment. After all, it has roots in socialism, just like modern liberalism has roots in socialism, yet they have not.

    This brings me to my next point, Stockholm Syndrome. Just like most Democratic Party voters, most Republican voters have been fooled into becoming prisoners of the very people they abhor, or in many cases, should abhor. The book What's the Matter With Kansas: How Conservatives Won the Heart of America is a great analysis of such. It is amazing that a blue-collared worker, union or not would vote against his own interests by voting for the "socialism for the rich" Republican Party. Still, they have. I largely put the blame on the establishment of the Republican Party and their special interests. They have manipulated the masses into exonerating the wealthy from all wrongdoing associated with the financial crisis, and instead have decided to force the masses to direct their anger towards the government, which was largely swindled by failed economic ideologies into engaging in regulatory and deregulatory efforts that created the crisis.

    These are just two reasons why an American will vote Republican. I can provide numerous other reasons.
     
  7. Awryly

    Awryly New Member Past Donor

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    What on earth are you talking about?

    I would have thought you would have applauded Obama's lack of bigotry, misogyny and all the rest.
     
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    Awryly New Member Past Donor

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    Wot? Obama has been at pains to distant himself from any and all religions.

    He shows just enough interest not to disaffect those who are so inflicted.
     
  9. Hoosier8

    Hoosier8 Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    In other words, he has no principles and is just a schmoozer that will tell people what they want to hear.
     
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    Better a Morman than a Muslim!
     

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