How come Israel is at >10% covid vaccination rate vs. <1% US

2 million vaccinations = ~1/4 of the Israeli population.
It's easy to vaccinate a large % of your population when your population is small.

^^^
Hyperpartisan bigotry

 

I'm not even going to read what's in this thread because first the left said they wouldn't trust Trump's vaccine, now they're complaining people aren't being vaccinated fast enough.

 

I guess to make clear, it's just that I have a respect for businesses(in general), where most accredited and regulated businesses just want to sell the most and make the most money. And to insulate otherwise just insults the entire R/D department. Another closely related debacle was the "Use the Defense Authorisation Act", by which they really meant "Revoke the 14th amendment to enslave the people for more ventilators/masks/tests". They're working their asses off! First they need the material to make the things then there's the whole process of making them and once you're done that they have to distribute the supply!

The biggest issue was a lack of national distribution because we don't have that EU type of system. If Biden goes about this nationalization time will tell if political Washington approves and if it does, they'll face calls of hypocrisy from Trump supporters but I digress: Clearly what we learned from the pandemic is that the national government is more suited to national challenges.

 

Well, what about a non-partisan look at it? Political pressure on the FDA was dangerous because we did need 2 months worth of safety data, to make sure these mRNA vaccines, which had NEVER been used in humans before, were not about to cause severe neurological damage, for example (which is more common within two months). So, some people - some politicians but even more, the scientific community, and even the vaccine makers themselves, nine of them - argued that pressuring the FDA into acting too fast would not only be dangerous but would also jeopardize the population's trust in the vaccines. So, cool heads prevailed (including from the White House; they ended up accepting the 2-month timeline for companies to submit the EUA application) and the FDA did do an appropriate job (took about two weeks analyzing the data, which is not bad). The vaccines got authorized, two of them. One of them would have made it without Warp Speed but the other one would not, so we the scientific community are grateful to Warp Speed (I've said it multiple times, so I shouldn't be suspected of political bias; I gave credit where credit is due, including to Trump).

The roll out though has been slow by the very standards set by the White House. The idea was to get 20 million doses into people's arms by December 31st. We managed to get about 3.5 million into people's arms (it's not 2.7M, it's 3.5M because the CDC data lag a little). So, objectively, it's been slow. Me, I wouldn't start a partisan blame game. I understand the various aspects that made things slow, and I've mentioned them in other posts, including, detailing my hospital's experience. As a learning curve is exercised, things should speed up in the next few days and weeks. Still, we do need to move faster, given that we're facing the worst time of this pandemic ever, with the most hospitalized patients ever, the most dead patients ever, and a new and more infectious strain taking hold. So, I'd like to see more mobilization. What about using the National Guard?

I think at this point we should all work in bipartisan ways to make it faster. By the way I've always thought that we shouldn't have politicized this whole thing, and should, from the beginning, have worked against this virus in a united manner; leftists, centrists, and rightists alike; Democrats, independents, and Republicans alike. This virus hits people of all walks of life; we are all Americans, and we should be working together to beat it.

I'm sick and tired of the politicizing of this pandemic. It's high time for us to put it aside. The election is over. Both parties tried to use the pandemic for their political goals. Let's try to get passed it, and try to beat this thing. It will be good for everybody if we do: not only we will avoid some deaths and some sequelae in survivors, but will also accelerate the economy faster, if we get the pandemic under control, and we do have the tools to do it, now.

American ingenuity got the vaccine job done. I'm VERY proud that two American companies, Pfizer and Moderna, were the winnesr of the race and the pioneers. Sure, I praise the European BioNTech too. They did well. But they wouldn't have done it without our Pfizer. And Moderna is 100% American, and was helped by our own National Institutes of Health, in a very good private-public partnership (it reminds me of the success of the Space X/NASA partnership).

What we have accomplished with the vaccines is extraordinary. The virus was sequenced in January, Moderna finished the first prototype in February, and by mid December we had the vaccine ready. Pfizer started a little later but caught up fast and actually ended up finishing up one week before Moderna. That's for all purposes a tie. And 95% efficacy, wow! In 11 months! This is unprecedented; the previous record (mumps) was 4 years. We did it. We Americans did it, with our scientists, our corporations, and our government.

Now let's continue this ingenuity and get the distribution and delivery of the vaccines into people's arms, down pat. We can do it if we work together, instead of wasting time blaming whatever politician we don't like. Political bickering and vendettas will only make us paralyzed and slow. Sure, we can continue to fight each other with the political tools at our disposal for the various issues we face as a nation, but this pandemic? Enough is enough. It's time to realize that it hurts all of us, so we should unite at least about the pandemic, to conquer it. Later we'll have all the time in the world to continue the partisan bickering. At this time, we need unity and speed.

 

Good post.

 

This piece by another physician says exactly what I was saying early in this thread:

https://www.cnn.com/2021/01/01/opinions/covid-19-vaccine-rollout-us-sepkowitz/index.html

 

New York has administered less than a third of COVID vaccine it has.

TIME FOR ANOTHER CUOMO BOOK ON LEADERSHIP, I GUESS

https://pjmedia.com/instapundit/423614/

 

weren't you one of the ones laughing at Trump when he promised a vaccine by end of 2020? I bet you were one of those saying it takes 5-10 years for a vaccine, now that it has been developed and distributed with 'warp' speed, you can't stand it... so now looking for any issues you can get your hands on. Truly shameful.. Even a retard would expect some hurdles when a vaccine has been devoted, approved and being distributed in record speed, nothing like this has ever being achieved. Instead of cheering this remarkable accomplishment, all you worry about is that it succeeds... because the well being of people is not your priority, it's making Trump look bad. Shameful my friend..

but thank god it isn't obama administration overseeing this, they couldn't even get a website working with ACA and let 65 million americans get swine flu.

thanks

 

1) I wasn't one of those who said it would take 5-10 years to develop a vaccine. I did, however, urge caution to not rely on the vaccine being ready in record time, so people would not feel social distancing and mask wearing were not necessary.

2) The development of the vaccines was an international effort. The first vaccine was based on German tech. How Trump wants to take credit for it is beyond me.

3) The roll-out of the vaccine obviously is not occurring at warp peed. In fact, we are beaten by other countries, just like in the initial covid testing debacle. I have no doubt that we'll catch up, but each week of low vaccination rates can cause 10,000s additional deaths.

4) It's kind of shameful to accuse others of well-being of people being not important to them, when it was Trump and Trumpers who wanted to throw the elderly under the bus to save the "magical" Trump economy and save his re-election success.