How come Trump and Sons will only go on Fox News?

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  1. VietVet

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    Nothing new.
    Darth Vader Cheney would also only appear on Faux "news".
    Fox is TASS for the GOP.
     
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    I stopped watching their network in 2015, after I noticed not only were they going smooth on Trump, not asking any substantive questions criticizing him, but that Sean Hannity was becoming more and more of an advocate for Trump, and pushy of Trump's ideals. Not only that, but "Can't keep it in the pants" O'Reilly's opening statements about dystopian views of the Democratic Party and/or progressives. Yeah, that gives me plenty of reason to tune out. Not only the obvious favoritism toward Trump, but the consistent slander of the left by their primetime hosts. In fact, its still going on with that former Justice proclaiming the Democratic Party is the party of hate. Really, did you forget Trump's whole campaign playbook?

    And don't think I don't know about the political landscape. There's a difference between the Reformed Democrats, more like the progressives, and the Old School Democrats, much like the wash-ups from the previous administrations Fox brings on to try adding balance like Beckel, like Caddell, like Schoen. That whole network needs to seriously sit down, and figure out how to get their act straight. And all this comes from 4-5 years of watching Fox, observing what the personalities and commentators do, what their habits are. If Rupert Murdoch supposedly holds libertarian views, then he should work to project those in Fox News, which he owns. Get rid of this nationalism Hannity keeps pushing, and revamp the programming to have a more Democratic balance. And most importantly, quite butt-kissing Trump.

    Maybe then, just then, the network can begin to build the credibility it lost with O'Reilly's ousting, if it had any credibility to start with.
     
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    Fox News claimed the top spot in every key ratings measure for cable news in the month of May. Any loss of "credibility" is a figment your imagination. Yes, CNN and MSNBC experienced short term spikes, but until they stand the test of time, their ratings are blips.

    If you have to tell me you know the political landscape, you probably don't. The profile of what most people believe to be a Democrat is the reason Hillary lost the election. Until you understand why that's lacking, your party will continue to lose elections.
     
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    Softball questions at a home field. This is not to say that Fox never asks the hard questions, but IMO they are less likely to than CNN.
     
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    bwahahaha....it's not as though Trump didn't lie and misrepresented himself on Twitter and his handlers have to come out and "interpret" what Trump really meant. Trump supporters are hilarious.
     
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    Conway didn't do shyt! if she was so great, then how come Ted Cruz lost? She jumped ship to kiss Trump's rear end because she realized that Trump would win inspite of himself. Hmmm...she DID call some Trump's supporters disgusting and comparable to a basket of deplorable, but now they defend her. Hilarious.

    With Fox, Trump get softball questions.
     
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    When Conway took over Trump's campaign, he had already been given up for dead. Your lack of understanding about this basic truth makes the rest of what you posted suspect. There is nothing hilarious about that.
     
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    Only given up dead in YOUR mind. Trump did not changed his tactics, his stupid Twitter feeds, or his incessant call for the wall so no, people's mind were already made up. Again, if she was so good, she would have resurrected Ted Cruz. She jumped on a hype and rode the coat tail to a win. NOBODY changed their mind on Trump because of Conway. Silly rabbit.
     
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    When Conway took over Trump's campaign, he trailing in national and swing state polls. Sometimes badly. That's fact that can't be denied by whatever fantasies drive your ideology. I'll let you show you're capable of looking it up.

    Cruz had no chance from the beginning. I personally like him, but he's too polarizing. No campaign manager could have saved him. Another fact you can't fantasize away. Conway was masterful in campaigning for Trump. If you didn't witness what she pulled off, you weren't paying attention.
     
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    I tend to agree. Those shows/networks have proven that they have an agenda. I won't watch them, so I certainly wouldn't expect Trump, or anybody to give them the time of day.
     
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    You sure have a lot of criticism about a winning campaign and campaign manager.

    Tell me how bad the warriors sucked at basketball too please.
     
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    The same reason cameras are banned from White House press briefings
     
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    Perhaps because Fox News is fair and balanced. Because they are the most trusted name in news,and because they report the news and let us decide.
     
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    Donald J. Trump is the only Trump that is holding elected office. He has done more interviews than any president in US history, thus far. He does them for anyone, not just Fox. His children are under no obligation to sit down and be grilled by radicals. Historically, the families of presidents were only given soft ball interviews, out of respect for the fact they are not the one actually holding the office. Since the shameless media obviously would not extend that basic decency to Trump's family, I don't blame them a bit.

    Also, where is your source for them being offered interviews, and them turning them down? CNN refuses to accept some Trump officials as guests on their show. It could be they, and other fact challenged outlets, have extended that ban to his family.
     
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    You mean because they don't want to be the source of vapid grand standing that serves to purpose for the public, but merely ratings for the news outlets that carry them live?
     
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    Good point. Hillary Clinton did ZERO interviews for Fox News during her campaign, and gave her last open forum press conference nearly a year out from the election. I'm not saying we need to hold the Trump family to the standards of a candidate. But, if actual candidates won't take questions from the other side, it seems strange to expect that of family members that traditionally were given soft ball interviews.
     
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    And Obama practically only appeared on Fox News when Fox had the Super Bowl and a President does an interview with the network hosting it that day.
     
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    That's not a rational objection for not allowing cameras at the white house press briefings. The public has a right to see the white house's answers at the press briefings and judge their words for themselves, rather than having to rely on hearing them secondhand through the same media outlets that they supposedly don't want serve as a source of ratings for.
     
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    Actually, no. The public does not have this right, as it is not the law. Human rights supersede the law but, a preference for televised replies is hardly a human right. Some of the people in that room should be thankful they still have a press pass at all. We don't give press passes to entertainers. We give them to journalists. The business of the presidency is far more important than cheap, ratings whoring, grand standing.
     
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    but government transparency is a right, which is written in law. Now I'm not saying we now don't have any transparency anymore, but it is an evasive maneuver on the administration's part. These guys are sissies, they're doing anything they can to avoid the tough questions that the public demands at any given opportunity.
     
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    Government transparency is not a right, it is a tradition. And this president has upheld that tradition better than any who came before him. At no point, on any topic, do you ever lack for wanting to know what The Donald thinks about anything. He tweets all day long, and gives interviews at an unprecedented pace. The mere removal of television from the briefings given in a room full of reporters could only be considered nontransparent by the most disingenuous of political hacks.
     
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    but it is a right, to the point where it is protected through multiple laws.

    When a new administration takes office they can move in one of two directions, they can move in the direction of more transparency, or they can move farther from it. This administration has definitively moved farther from it, they want to avoid the tough questions whenever possible. Going on twitter isn't really transparency, because you're only addressing the issues that you feel like addressing.
     
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    What laws are being broken, oh wise mover of goal posts? Please, tell us where there is a law that says CNN must be allowed to televise their grand standing?

    What are you on about with saying there are no tough questions? Trump has done sit downs with basically every journalist whose name we know. What more could you possibly want? If Hillary had won, how many Fox News interviews do you think she would have done by now?
     
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    Where did I say laws were being broken? The closest thing I said to that was when I said "I'm not saying we now don't have any transparency anymore, but it is an evasive maneuver on the administration's part"

    Clearly I am expressing that we still do have transparency, but we are moving farther from it. I should also note that Obama went on Fox twice during his first year in office, and went back ten more times during his presidency. That's the Obama administration, which to make myself perfectly clear, wasn't all that transparent on a lot of issues.
     
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    Obama appeared on Fox News several times, contrary to your false claim. He was interviewed by Bill O the Clown after the Superbowl on at least two occasions.
     

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