How did the GOP end up with Trump or Cruz?

Also, its only half supported by Trump's crowd. They want welfare and social programs for those they think deserves them. GOP promises to cut relentlessly, which was meant to appeal to the base, aliened these guys instead.

 

I can remember George Bush saying very publically that "they do jobs Americans do not want to do" and there was not a hint of protest from the right side. I also come from John McCain's home state and he was dead set opposed to any sort of a wall or enhanced border security. Additionally, I belonged to the local Chamber of Commerce who used to tout my town as "having a plentiful supply of inexpensive labor." Guess which party the vast majority of CofC members belong to.

I don't think I'm being unfair to Republican voters, they just wanted their cake and to be able to eat it to. They THOUGHT they'd have the better jobs while the Mexicans had the grass-cutting jobs. When it didn't work out that way, they became anti-immigrant.

 

I was about to say the same thing. Extremism explains Hillary and Bernie, but this thread is about Trump and Cruz.

 

Some would opine that Hillary Clinton must have sold her soul to the devil - which would be a "deal" that the Tagger Supreme could only envy since many of those folks believe she is the devil.

In measuring the loathsome Trump against the odious Cruz, it has been noted that the entertainment personality is the most unpopular presidential candidate ever.

Not true!

Trump has been endorsed by the neo-nazi Daily Stormer and the white supremacist American Freedom Party, but his fan, David Duke, still edges him out in unpopularity.

 

First of all, Trump is not a lunatic, as you alleged in your post. But the gist of your post is a valid one. I've tried to think of a few people who might make a good president on the Republican side, and very few if any names come to mind. Some are very good at staying in office by saying all the right things and doing nothing about it, but no one really comes to mind as someone who stands above the others.

If I were given the role of picking someone for president, I might go with Newt Gingrich. He is the only accomplished Republican the Republicans have; and even that goes back about 20 years. This is why I think Trump should consider him for VP, if Trump were to actually get the nomination. All the others in the presidential field are spoiled goods at this point in time.

 

For decades people have been voting for Corporate Party #1 or Corporate Party #2. While the parties differ on social issues (guns, gays etc), their positions on immigration, free trade, outsourcing, deficits, jobs and other pocketbook issues were essentially identical. Trump has showed that there is another way and that explains his popularity and the enthusiasm of his supporters whose economic priorities have been ignored by both parties for 50 years and counting.

As far as Cruz is concerned, he is just the last alternative to Trump standing, he is still having difficulties breaking through his 30% ceiling and that include his uber-conservative supporters and the #neverTrump crowd. Pretty pathetic showing if you ask me.

 

Bush, McCain, and Romney we're all establishment moderate candidates, trying something new, cannot be any worst. we need someone other then a Governor or first term Senator this time around. I hope Trump does not get robbed at the convention, I think he will win in November if given the chance.

 

I don't think Trump has a chance of getting elected

If the GOP is stupid enough to nominate him, it is their funeral.

Good to see you following my sage advice by finally making a post without mentioning "Wall Street" or "rigged".

 

Trump has a very good chance of being elected if they would stop the " Rigged " primaries and caucuses.

The GOP does not want Trump because he runs counter to their very crooked dealing within the Political system.

Bernie Sanders is the one who brings up " Wall Street " the most, followed by the copycat lying criminal Hillary Clinton.
Neither of them know their history very well if at all it seems or purposely ignore it, both should look no further than the country of Argentina and how all of the policies they are touting are the very ones that absolutely destroyed Argentina. Argentina was set to become the southern continents richest and most prosperous country til they dug there grave financially with the very policies Hillary and Bernie want in place.

 

Duncan Hunter would be my number one choice for VP, he's a really good person and veteran, I challenge anyone to look into who he is, and what he's made of, and tell me I'm wrong.

 

The more traditional or 'establishment' types were more divided, and they split up too late in the game. If Rubio, Walker, Kasich, etc. weren't in but left it to Bush, we may very well have had Bush in it. But the traditional or 'establishment' vote was divided.

Not that there are no other factors, I just think that that is the primary factor.

 

Hillary has been endorsed by a real Nazi colleaborator not a neo-naxzi, that would be George Soros.

Bernie has been endorsed by a real terrorist, Obama's friend and neighbor Bill Ayres.

 

Regardless of your being pissy about them, neither is a racist organization, so your attempt at contriving an equivalency is quite feeble.

 

Republicans are in a lose/lose situation.

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They were disgusted with the crowd about whom they had been so giddy when they took over Congress, and the entertaining novelty act's opposition was far too dispersed for too long.

Still, the tycoon buffoon has clued in many who were still in denial concerning the Dub's fraudulently-contrived, multi-trillion dollar, nation-building fiasco in Iraq, and he quelled the jihad against Planned Parenthood by explaining that it provided essential services concerning women's health.

He has succeeded in castrating the Party's ayatollahs, and smashing the Let's make our government real puny! faction.

From The Blaze:

 

As do Our.Dear.Leader's Trumpf's!!!

 

Neither one is an organization but are individuals that represent organizations.

Soros worked for the National Socialist Party aka NAZI during WW ll.
Hillary hasn't rejected Soros endorsement or money. Then again Hillary hasn't rejected the endorsement of the Grand Dragon of the KKK either. She's going to need more than the illegal aliens votes if she wan't to go back to living in public housing again at 1600 Pennsylvania Avenue.

Ayres was a terrorist with the SDS and the Weathermen and when that name was pointed out not being politically correct they changed their name to the Weather Underground.
Bill Ayres was a lousy terrorist when you look at when he bombed the Pentagon and then compare it to when Al Qaeda flew a plane into the Pentagon.
It just seems that all leftist are incompetent.

 

And the Democrats applaud. They are holding their breath praying for a Trump nomination. They know he cannot win the General.

 

The organ of the neo-nazi party in America, the Daily Stormer, and the white supremacist American Freedom Party have issued their official, public endorsements of Donald Trump.

It is not necessary to search history to dredge up circumstances of childhood, hype the bygone alleged naughriness of irrelevant individuals with no convictions concerning the activities alleged, or cite one peculiar bloke who said he had withdrawn support from Trump because he didn't like his wig.

Your squirming instead of honestly confronting Trump's current endorsements by the neo-nazi Daily Stormer and white supremacist American freedom Party only emphasizes your impotence.

 

Do these wannabe nazis scare you ?

If they do, who are you going to call ?

The SPLC ?

 

Most Americans realize that the buffoon tycoon and the foreign guy are highly unlikely to be elected but, unless you're a GOP Establishmentista, it's fun watching them snarl Liar! at each other.

Latest polls:

FOX News...... 4/11 - 4/13......Clinton: 48%......Trump: 41%...... Clinton +7

CBS News...... 4/8 - 4/12......Clinton: 50%......Trump: 40%...... Clinton +10



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The only folks who are scared are the diehard Trumpies who are desperate to suppress public awareness of these endorsements.

 

The point of the Thread, exactly! How did these two end up as the favorites. Its like the RNC went to the DNC and said, "Who would you like us to nominate?"

 

Some might argue that Newt's time is past, many might argue that Duncan's time isn't quite here yet for VP. Though he does look like someone most conservatives would definitely favor, even though his name recognition is pretty low on the scale at this point in time.

 

Those hypothetical polls mean nothing; garbage in, garbage out. They won't mean anything until after both conventions are over, and even then, they won't mean much at all until a few weeks before the election.

In fact, those polls are more likely to be a contrary indicator at this point in time. Kasich usually does best in them, and he can't even get 20% support in his own party. That's because he appeals mostly to Democrats, and those same Democrats who like him now in these silly hypothetical polls, they will be voting for the Democratic candidate in November.

 

Polls mean nothing, UNTIL late-October head-to-head matchups in the Electoral swing states.

Polls based on possible matchups (at this point in time) mean absolutely nothing.

Lmao at anybody (at this point) citing potential general election polls. Just LMAO!